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Mac vs PC War--delete if not interested!

Matthew Klahn mklahn at mac.com
Tue Feb 10 10:12:00 PST 2004

On Feb 9, 2004, at 21:19 , h christmas wrote:

> On 9.2.04 10:37, "Matthew Klahn" <mklahn at mac.com> wrote:

> yes, but you do not have the options that you have with an x86 based
> machine. but then, you also don't have to do any research. Apple will 
> tell
> you what you can use.

True enough. Few options for the proprietary motherboard and 
processors. In fact, one wonders if the board goes if it is just time 
to upgrade. That's actually what always happened to me when I would 
have something major go wrong with a PC I'd built; it was a great 
excuse to get a better motherboard & processor, which then used DIMMs 
instead of SIMMs, so I'd have to get more memory, different harddrive, 
etc.

> Hopefully Apple will stop their crippling DVD drives and allow their 
> DVD+R
> capable drives to actually write that way soon instead of just DVD-R.

I've never had a SuperDrive, so I guess I don't know this particular 
issue. I do hate how Apple tends to cripple hardware, though. They have 
this issue with the video cards they put into the consumer machines; in 
order to differentiate between consumer & pro models, they only let you 
do monitor mirroring instead of spanning. Kinda irritating...

> you do have to note, however, that Apple has built many of their cases 
> to
> limit the number of optical drives you can add. If, for some reason, 
> you
> wanted a ZIP drive and two optical drives in the Quicksilver line, you 
> were
> out of luck. The new G5s also have an insane limit of two internal hard
> drives, I believe, which makes it impossible if you want to have a 
> raid and
> a separate boot drive. Bad decision on Apple's part I would say. But 
> then
> they want you to buy the Xserve if you want to raid. Much of your 
> expansion,
> should you want to expand either with optical or hard drives, must be 
> done
> with external drives which are more expensive and take up more space.

True, true. They do push for external storage more. But, I think that 
their cases are marvels of engineering compared to any PC case I've 
ever seen. They are better laid out, but more limiting. Again, I also 
hope they will change this in future revs like they did with the G4 
cases.

> This is actually surprising and not all that true for the film industry
> where some houses have moved from Sun to Linux lately. I work with a 
> film
> major who would not consider doing his editing on compositing on a mac 
> as
> there are better software packages (for less money) for his PC.

Ok, I guess Pixar itself is only just now switching over to Macs now 
that the G5s are out (they've ported Renderman to Mac OS X, btw). But, 
while I don't have names of studios, I do hear that Final Cut Pro is 
becoming widely adopted for film editing. I know the Coen brothers 
recently did a film using FCP. From what I understand, it's becoming 
widely adopted, but maybe I was overstating?

And, also from what I hear, Final Cut Express ($299) is pretty darn 
good for the cost. Are you sure this file major isn't 
misinformed/biased? Have they researched all the options? $1100 G4 
iBook + $299 FCE seems like a pretty darn good deal now that they've 
added real-time rendering to FCE...

> Most modifications to the iMac, except for the easily accessible one 
> stick
> of RAM will, however, void your warranty. But the iMac is great for 
> someone
> who primarily wants to save space, surf, email and do word processing, 
> which
> is much of the population.

Right. I actually just read a quote that something like 80% of the 
computer using public don't use expansion in any computer they buy. 
(Lies, damned lies and statistics, though.)

> All in all I think both platforms have their uses and like them both 
> for
> different reasons. The thing that bothers me most about both platforms 
> are
> the zealots, but that bothers me about anything.

I think you'll find zealots on all sides of this argument. In my 
experience, Mac people tend to be more defensive (hey, they just spent 
thousands of dollars, what do you expect?), Windows people tend to be 
more scornful and Linux people tend to be more arrogant. Heck, I was 
once an arrogant Linux user! But, it's basically a holy war; as you 
say, all are good for certain things. But, my original thesis wasn't 
that Macs are the best, but that for what Steve does, maybe it's a 
better alternative. I guess that got lost in the noise & fury.

--
Matthew S. Klahn
Software Architect, CodeTek Studios, Inc.
http://www.codetek.com