On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, Philip Hart wrote: #(I assume there aren't any others in use because, well, we would have #heard about it by now, which I guess is why Zungaron is described as #clueless on pg 41 [hc] of _Issola_. Sethra is kind of vague on this #point - perhaps because SKZB wants flexibility.) If there are 17, #perhaps the gods have the rest (or destroyed them). Or perhaps the #Serioli. Or the J (though that seems unlikely). Or maybe some of them don't (quite) exist yet, as Gs didn't until I. -- Mark A. Mandel http://cracksandshards.com a Steven Brust Dragaera fan website