On Sat, 6 Mar 2004, Philip Hart wrote: #On Sat, 6 Mar 2004, Mark A Mandel wrote: #> JEN - oh - een #Jenoine # /'jen-oh-i:n/ #i: life, sky # #I get JEN-oh-ine out of that. # #I had JEN-oh-EEN in my head originally. Oh, RATS!! I've been reading and IPA (International Phonetic Alphabet), the linguistic standard notation for speech sounds, since I was about twelve, and that's a LONG time. It's long since become reflexive. IPA [i:] is "ee". That's what tripped me up. -- Dr. Whom, Consulting Linguist, Grammarian, Orthoepist, and Philological Busybody a.k.a. Mark A. Mandel