On Mar 10, 2004, at 10:39 PM, Bryan Newell wrote: >> Not to pick nits, but do we have any idea where Candletown is? > > Candletown... Killertown... methinks its true name is > "Drivemenutstown". > I apologize in advance for sharing this with you: > > > 1. Book of Taltos, pg 126 - teleport me to Candletown, which is along > the > seacoast to the east [of Adrilankha] > > > So good, so far... Candletown is east of Adrilankha. I remember the > halcyon > days of my youth when this was the only reference to Candletown... I > was so > happy... so content.. so--err, sorry. > > > 2. The Paths of the Dead, pg 217 - the Grand Canal from Candletown to > Dragaera City. > > > Mmmm. The Grand Canal goes from Candletown to Dragaera City... > > > 3. The Paths of the Dead, pages 33 and 35 - [Orlaan was] picking > flowers in > a meadow near the banks of the ... Adrilankha River ... nearly three > hundred > miles north of [Adrilankha] ... [Orlaan] traced a line from Dragaera > City > ... to Dzur Mountain [and began her search from the edge of the Lesser > Sea > and her search brought her here] > > > Dzur Mountain is east of Adrilankha (northeast). So for the line > between DC > and DM to cross the Adrilankha River 300 miles north of Adrilankha, DC > has > to be west of Adrilankha. > > Well, "has to" is such a strong phrase... Perhaps the Adrilankha River > curves east (the meadow being northeast instead of north), which would > allow > for DC to be east of Adrilankha, but again... the Canal would still > cross > the Adrilankha River... > > The only way I could keep Candletown to the east and avoid river/canal > crossing was for the Adrilankha River to curve WEST after the meadow, > and go > around DC to the west (like I drew it on the map). > > This leaves a thin path between the Adrilankha and Yendi Rivers (I'll > get to > the Yendi--that aptly named river!--in a minute) that the Canal could > flow > through. > > > Then again, maybe Vlad is wrong (if you're teleporting everywhere, do > you > really know which direction anyplace is?). Maybe Candletown is west of > Adrilankha. Paarfi very nearly suggests just such a thing: > > > 4. The Paths of the Dead, pg 306 - establish regular shipping between > [Hartre] and Northport, the latter of which was well located for [Mount > Kana]. His intention was ... for a ship [to be] sent to Candletown > [reload] > and to sail from there "around the horn" (as sailors call it) to > Northport. > > > I say suggest, because it _is_ possible that these ships go EAST to > Candletown from Hartre, then go back west PAST Hartre and continue on > "around the horn" to Northport, but "sail from there" seems like an > odd way > to express that. > > > The Yendi River gets it start in the Boiling Mountains, which are east > of > Dragaera City: > > > 5. The Phoenix Guards, pg 212 - a measure of time spent riding [toward > Redface, to the east] through the beautiful Ironwood Gap of the Boiling > Mountains ... the diverse mountain springs that rushed ... through the > mountains, anxious to join together to form the northern Yendi River > > > If Candletown is west of DC, the Adrilankha River has to cross the > Canal to > go west around DC. If the Adrilankha River goes east around DC, it > has to > cross the Yendi River... > > Surely, we can turn to Paarfi to straighten this whole river-crossing > madness out for us. Unfortunately, the answer is "No, and quit > calling me > Shirley." > > > 6. The Phoenix Guards, pg 247 - From the Gate of Flags our friends had > traveled down the mountain [Boiling Mountains, through the Ironwood > Gap] to > the small town of Everdim ... through the Flowering Valley, crossing > the > Yendi River at Flatspot ... after which they began the trek through the > pushta ... At last they [crossed] Adrilankha River at Guilrock > Crossing and > began to make their way slowly uphill again, as, even here, they were > in the > lap, as it were, of the Eastern Mountains. > > > At this point, I begin having wonderful visions of sailing up and down > these > rivers on Paarfi's bloated backside... > > > Is there _anyway_ to take all 6 quotes and create a layout that doesn't > require any rivers/canals to cross each other? > > Consulting my inner Yendi, I believe I can think of a way: > > What if the Adrilankha River had its source far to the EAST of DC, but > ran > north, then west, then south around DC to the west, then east again > until it > was close to due north of Adrilankha, then straight south to Adrilankha > (like a giant, backwards question mark). > > That would solve all of the above: > > a The Adrilankha River would have a bank 300 miles north of Adrilankha, > directly between DC and DM (right after this bank, the Adrilankha River > would take a rather sharp turn to the west...). > > b. Candletown would be east of Adrilankha, and the Grand Canal would > run > from there along the Adrilankha River for a ways, along the Yendi > River for > a ways, and then finally arriving at DC. > > c. A few miles northeast of DC, the Yendi River would gets its start > and run > southeast for the most part. > > d. A person going east/northeast from DC would cross the Yendi, then > cross > the Adrilankha near its source to the northeast of DC. Between DC and > the > source of the Adrilankha River, such a person could amuse his or her > friends > by saying "the Adrilankha River is to the west! No, to the east! No, > I > jest, it's to the north! I'm here all week, folks!" > > Of course, it would have to run WAY north, because it appears the > canal does > not stop at DC, but continues on to the north a bit: > > > 7. The Lord of Castle Black, pages 310-311,314 - The place to which we > now > direct our reader is in the county of Merwin, along the Grand > Canal--or as > near to the geographical middle of the Empire as anywhere one could > name. In > the northwestern corner of this county, actually touching the canal, > is a > barony, called Loraan ... > > My brain hurts. > > Bryan > Or maybe Vlad's Candletown was named after the original that was destroyed in Adron's disaster...? >