This message was sent but doesn't seem to have reached anyone. If you get double, tell me. --- Sean Whalen <stlatos at yahoo.com> wrote: > --- Philip Hart <philiph at slac.stanford.edu> wrote: > > > > On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Sean Whalen wrote: > > > > > > --- Philip Hart <philiph at slac.stanford.edu> > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Sean Whalen wrote: > > > > > > > > > I definitely believe that there can be > > > > > multiple Emperors during a > > > > > reign. > > > > > > > > Good point. To the left, Vlad might be making > > > > up > > > > the 189 year limit. > > The 17**2 (=289, incidentally) might be folk > wisdom. > > The (perhaps less > > than highly educated) Dragaerans Vlad likes to > taunt > > may believe it (or > > accept Vlad's assertion as fact), but that doesn't > > prove anything. > > And the Orb might be programmed to > > prolong natural life > > in office to 289. The likelihood of handover due > to > > crisis may be high. > > I've reread some parts that may help my theories, > mainly page 483 of _The Phoenix Guards_ and page 6 > of > _Five Hundred Years After_. > > Illista's plan was to get Allistar as Noima's > lover > and then get rid of Tortaalik through a crisis he > couldn't handle. Allistar would be able to deal > with > it, marry Noima, and continue the Phoenix Reign. > > Tortaalik's sister was the prime mover in the > plot > to poison him (White Goblets). It seems unlikely > that > it would be meant to keep him comatose and rule as > regent (especially in Dragaera where someone who > controls the Orb is a necessity). > > > > > I don't recall any reference to p-E sorcery > > > > concerning the goblets in > > > > question - I imagine that they were made of > > > > Phoenix stone. > > > > > > Maybe, but Gyorg Lavode was able to detect > the > > > poison. I think the goblets used a specific > spell > > not > > > powered from the Orb in order to fool it. > > > > Maybe he has a sharp sense of smell - it might go > > with being a Dzur. > > Maybe the presence of a hunk of Phoenix stone > > disturbs the psychic or > > sorceral ambiance enough for an adept to notice > and > > become curious. > > Rereading, the goblets had been specially > prepared > to be immune to the Orb's abilities but not Gyorg's. > > This may mean his sense of smell or psychic senses, > but it doesn't seem likely. > > Preparing goblets with black and gold > phoenixstone > seems almost impossible. In _Phoenix_ the Orb > detected the invisible area created by Aibyn's > phoenixstone. If the goblets just blocked the area > around them the poison would be detectable as soon > as > it left the goblets (and into the Emperor). What > would the Orb normally do when it detected poison > nearby? Even if it just informed and took no action > others could cast spells to get rid of the poison. > The Orb probably just destroys the poison (or else > the > Emperor would be extremely vulnerable to Elder > Sorcery > that did nothing but shoot a poisoned arrow at him). > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam > http://mail.yahoo.com > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com