Dragaera

Grammar (was: Poker)

Thu Apr 8 18:16:05 PDT 2004

--- Philip Hart <philiph at slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, Jerry Friedman wrote:
> 
> > --- Greg Morrow <dr.elmo at whiterose.org> wrote:
> > > Philip Hart wondered aloud to the group:
> > >  >So why
> > >  >   the army's strength was sufficient
> > >  >but not
> > >  >   the strength of the army's was sufficient
> > >  >
> > >  >Presumably because nouns became less inflected through laziness?
> >
> > Hm.  Are speakers of English lazier than speakers of Russian or,
> > for that matter, Hungarian?  (I think Hungarian has lots of noun
> > inflections--but I've been wrong before.)
> 
> I think so - it's natural to lose grammar (compare Horace's Latin
> to the demotic) but of course there are forces that maintain it.
> 
> 
> > Also, since we mostly don't have cases in English, we have to be
> > careful about things like word order.  Is that less lazy?
> 
> Judging from Latin, where near-random word order makes life hard
> (for this native English speaker), yes.

I think you mean that it's natural to lose inflections.  English
lost inflections but gained word-order grammar.  And of course there
are forces that add inflections, which is why they exist in the first
place.  See the sci.lang FAQ <http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci-lang-faq/>,
section 30.

Jerry Friedman



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