In a message dated 5/11/2004 4:55:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, philiph at slac.stanford.edu writes: > I haven't read a word of the Wheel of Time - but this discussion > is making me curious to watch the train wreck. Go to a library or book store and look in the Young Adult section for _From the Two Rivers_ (first half of _Eye of the World_). It starts with a prologue (written for that edition) titled "Ravens". If you can force your way through that, you'll likely enjoy at least some of the Wheel of Time books. --KG