I was re-reading Taltos, and a though meandered past me brain- what is the color of Sethra Lavode's eyes, (other that black)? I didn't happen to see it mentioned , and can't recall it anywhere else other than Issola, and that was Vlad in a staredown, so I don't think it counts. I mean I think he was looking at her pupils (or whatever is naturally black). James Griffin, Still Another Vlad faN _________________________________________________________________ Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/