On Mon, 21 Jun 2004, Philip Hart wrote: >On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, David Silberstein wrote: > >> The Marquise de Merteuil and the Vicomte de Valmont are both >> serious Yendis trying to out-Yendi each other. > >I'd think their plans are much too straightforward for Yendis. >They're rather more like Athyras (or I should say athyras) in a world >where sex is magic, or Dzurs in a society where sex is violence. >Or perhaps evil Issolas. Hm. No. There's too much of what looked to me like dissembling, plotting, and scheming purely for its own sake that just says "Yendi" to me. I'm not sure where you get Dzur or Athyra from at all. They aren't particularly heroic or intellectual, after all. And Yendis are kinda like evil Issola anyways - all the courtesy serving the multiple (very often nasty) surprises. Although you did leave out one House which might well fit: (very) decadent Phoenixes.