Dragaera

Immortality

Tue Jun 22 18:36:57 PDT 2004

On Tue, Jun 22, 2004 at 08:59:43AM -0400, John Klein wrote:

> (For one thing, we'd all have children more slowly. Either of our own
> accord, or by law. And if we were immortal we'd have to stop having them
> entirely at some point. Which is /another/ section of our culture that
> would vanish.)

People will still die of accidents and suicide and such.  Unless we get
backups, in which case lots more things can change.

> @> We do, after all, live in the present.
> And this is just plain wrong.

What' right, then?

> Depends. Presumably you're talking about the "don't shrivel up and turn
> into a cricket" variety of immortality, which is difficult to believe in.

It's the shrivelling up and turning into a cricket which kills you.  The only
way to get 'immortality' -- lack of death by natural causes -- is to stop or
fix the shrivelling up.

> their small size), but is that at all realistic? And how much point is
> there in living a thousand years if you can only remember a hundred of
> them?

We don't remember a lot of our lives in detail as it is.  Lots of daily
details just aren't important.  Skills and big events events and who to trust
are important.

Live for 1000 years and you can cultivate many skills, and have good
historical perspective, and not be re-learning the wheel as each new
generation of scientists much.  Sure, you don't remember exactly what you did
>from age 700-850, but so what?

Maybe the long life would be pointless without prosthetic memories, but maybe
not.

Certainly there's some finite capacity, only so many skills you can keep
fresh, so much of who you are that you can remember... though that might not
matter either; individuals changing over time into different individuals isn't
any more pointless than individuals dying and being replaced by new
individuals.

But it'd be nice to find out.

-xx- Damien X-)