Dragaera

Idle Speculation (SPOILERS)

Thu Sep 30 13:16:53 PDT 2004

On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 11:00, Jerry Friedman wrote:
> --- Scott Schultz <scott at cjhunter.com> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > > Mark Englehart writes:
> > > >I have to disagree.  In Teckla, Verra tells Vlad that the books the
> > > >revolutionaries were working from came from Earth and were 
> > > not appropriate 
> > > >for Dragaera, at least not yet.  That means that communism 
> > > and socialism at 
> > > >least have not been seen in a Teckla Republic. 
> > >
> > 
> > To which Joshua Kronengold replies 
> > > Er...no, it means it isn't time for a Teckla Republic yet.
> > > Not the right part of the cycle.  What else would it mean?
> > > 
> >  
> > I agree with Mark on this one. My impression from Verra was not "this is
> > the
> > wrong era for this" , it was "this literature is inappropriate to this
> > world
> > and culture because things don't work that way here".
> 
> I almost agree with you and Mark.  My impression was, "Marx and
> Engels have proved that feudalism leads through a dialectic
> process to capitalism, eventually industrial capitalism, which in
> turn leads to a socialist revolution and the dictatorship of the
> proletariat.  Dragaera is still too feudal and not capitalistic or
> industrial enough to be ready for socialism." Here I'm attempting
> a Marxist point of view, which I assume is Steven's but isn't mine.
> 

For what it's worth, you've captured about 90% of what I was shooting
for.  (The other 10% involves things like magic and the effects of
genetic manipulation; but you have the guts of it.)
-- 
Steven Brust	skzb at dreamcafe.com
"Preacher, don't the bible have some pretty specific things to say about
killing?"  "Quite specific.  It's rather fuzzier, however, on the
subject of kneecaps." -- Firefly