The point of that was that in the Paths, sorcery was impossible, hence Vlad did it (the once in a lifetime transport of a certain object) with witchcraft. I believe sorcery can transport *items*, but not perhaps in bulk? James Griffin, Still Another Vlad faN As I recall, in FHYA, there is a rather lengthy Paarfism on teleportation, in which it is stated that the teleportation of objects is rather common, but until then no one had been successfull in teleporting themselves or anyone else, except for one rather messy exception. Jeff _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/