SKZB's comment on dinosaurs reminded me of a point I wanted to raise: jhereg are smart and have two legs and two wings and sit on shoulders, and are surely in some sense derived from parrots. Does anyone have a collection of jhereg traits which are parrot-like? AFB but I have a vague memory of Savn seeing Loiosh and Rocza bobbing their heads at him in apparent laughter, which matches a vague impression I have of parrot behavior. Ditto the ending of _J_. I don't know anything about parrot ears and if they like to be scratched around that area. Anyway, it's something to consider when interpreting things L&R do.