----- Original Message ----- From: "Jose Marquez" <jhereg69 at earthlink.net> To: "Dragaera" <dragaera at dragaera.info> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 10:20 AM Subject: Re: Necromancy > Timothy Scott wrote: > > >> Dragaerans aren't native either; they're modified humans/Easterners. > >> I would think this would make their souls interchangeable (I base > >> this on the fact that Vlad is the reincarnation of the first Jhereg, > >> although as someone already mentioned, this circumstance may have > >> come about through divine intervention), but apparently the LoJ can > >> differentiate between Easterners and Dragaerans just fine. Vlad, > >> although he has the soul of an e'Kieron *and* a Jhereg, is not > >> allowed to go back to the Paths of the Dead, as they don't let > >> Easterners in; however, this makes me wonder whether his removal from > >> the Dragaeran soul pool means that he will not be able to return to > >> it, being part of the Easterner soul pool. > >> > >> Jose > >> > >> -- > >> Jose Marquez | There are 10 types of people in > >> jhereg69 at earthlink.net | the world: those who understand > >> http://www.hackwater.com | binary, and those who don't. > >> > >> > > > > I thought the " e' " prefix meant you were descended from a certain > > person. Vlad (in his earlier incarnation) was Kieron's brother, not > > his son. > > You're right; I was just trying to riff on the whole family line and > make Dolivar a Dragon and a Jhereg (rather than an ex-Dragon). I wonder > if Kieron's parents could create chaos... > > Jose > No, they can't. Otherwise they would not keep trying to reaccess Dragerea to get to the Sea of Chaos. I think that Keiron, Doliver and Sethra are probably from the same batch of cross breeds created by the Jenoine. Remember the description of Sethra's lineage block? I believe it was in FHYA, it was described as if she had come from nothing. Now, the other thought that rolled through my head. It was mentioned that to the Necromancer, life and death are matters of engineering. So, if you approach it that way, we can assume multiple planes of existence, and to access these you must be in various life states. (Life ace we would consider it.) So, to a Dragerean, death is a transition from the life state on this plane, to the life state on the plane that is held by the Lords of Judgment. Thus, Morganti weapons may not necessarily destroy the soul, they prevent it >from transitioning to the next plane of existence, the Paths of the Dead. This explains why those studying Necromantic Sorcery would have a collection of Morganti weapons, so they can observe how that transition from plane to plane is stopped, as that would also lead one to how the transition is done. This is also supported by comments made by Verra, and the events related in BDP, as Verra is prevented from manifesting in that plane. We have already seen that gods and demons can manifest in multiple places at once, so when Verra was killed, that manifestation (of a part of her "soul") was destroyed, and the ability to return to that plane was removed. Now, what is interesting, is that Verra can still manifest in Dragerea. So, does this imply that Dragerea and the East are two different planes? This is supported by the lack of attacks by the Jenoine on the East as a way to get to the Empire. Jeff G.