Jose Marquez wrote on Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:40:25 -0500 >Going back to chaos, this means that either the >Jenoine deliberately built-in chaos-creation abilities in three (or >more) lab rats, or these lab rats gained these abilities through >mutation (possibly Verra-aided mutation?), which in my mind takes >parents that are not Jenoine. >Thoughts? Hi, I think the chaos-creation abilities came from Verra without the Jenoine knowing about it. I think it happened like this: The Jenoine send at least one slave to capture a dragon. A nasty-looking dragon was captured and then Bolk dragged that dragon over to Verra. Verra gives some of her blood to the dragon without the Jenoine knowing. Three Jenoine then used pieces of that dragon to create a certain line of Dragons. Either then or later, that line included Kieron, D*livar and a third person who eventually was reincarnated as Aliera. Why do I think that? I think it is fun to speculate especially while waiting for another book to be written. I am omen-ridden. I tend to get obscure ideas based on just one word appearing in two books. I did not think of the horse as Bolk though. That was Thomas Yan's idea. I was concentrating on the word plow and missed the whole horse/bolk idea. "harness me to a horse and use me as a plow" {huh? horse=Bolk? :)} Thomas Yan http://www.mojoworld.net/sil/fandom/dbs/dbsa_athyra.html Vlad having fever dreams in Athyra: "'Did someone harness me to a horse and use me as a plow?' 'No.' 'I suspected that was a dream. Were there three little tiny people standing around me arguing about who got what pieces of my body, and what to do with the rest?'" The Book of Athyra, Athyra, Chapter 10, page 119. To a dragon, even Jenoine might seem like little tiny people. A fable in Brokedown Palace: "So I walked back until I came into the mountains. There was a dragon there, and a nasty-looking one at that. I sang the dragon to sleep so I wouldn't have to worry about it." ... "Then I picked up the dragon (I was strong in those days) and used its head to plow" ... "Of course, the dragon was pretty angry by then, and I was starting to have some trouble with him. So I went over to the Demon Goddess's house and said, 'Here, you can have this.'" Brokedown Palace, Interlude, page 197. Another thing that made me think that Vlad might have access to the memories of a real dragon was this from the book Dragon: "Even in a painting, there was something powerful and intriguing about the way those tentacle-like appendages around its neck seemed to wave and flutter--apparently at random, yet there was a purpose in it. And the expression on the dragon's face spoke of necessity, but of a certain joy as well. The wound in its side, which was closest to me, was skillfully rendered to evoke pity but not disgust, and even in the young dragon there was a certain hint that, though requiring protection, it was still a dragon, and thus not to be trifled with either. My eye kept returning to those tentacles, however, as if they were a puzzle that might be solved, revealing--what?" Dragon, paperback, Chapter 3, page 56. Bye. Linda G.