Shawn Burns wrote: > Well, I'm not really advocating "giving up" the logical meaning of the > phrase...just perhaps not caring so much about when someone chooses to use > it in the way that seems most intuitive to them. I can easily see myself > using both meanings in conversations, just switching up based on the > audience and context. Well, as the person who instigated this discussion with his incorrect usage, I must say I am always grateful when people like Dr. Whom correct such mistakes. It is to be hoped* that he will continue to do so in the future; or I shall continue to make such elementary mistakes. * As an example of such an elementary mistake, I've forced myself out of the habit of misusing "hopefully" in my writing, and even, with occasional slips, in my speech. I remain exceedingly grateful. :) Chris (Who's proud, but not so proud he won't fess-up when he's done wrong.) "Life is the nightmare that leaves its mark upon you in order to prove that it is, in fact, real." -Thomas Ligotti- 'The Sect of the Idiot'