In a message dated 02/10/2005 11:21:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, howard at brazee.net writes: We didn't need the masses to conquer Iraq, and even if we had the masses, we couldn't stop the current fighting. I guess this is what I disagree with. More troops, better communication and a willing, helpful population would allow us to 'win' the peace in Iraq. Or maybe you are right because I am setting conditions. As it stands now, no, more troops won't help without the other two. John D. Barbato, OD