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Defender always wins? (Was: Re: on contradictions and s

Thu Feb 10 18:16:20 PST 2005

On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 06:56:44PM -0600, Rebecca <rct9911 at comcast.net> wrote:
> From: "Matthew Hunter" <matthew at infodancer.org>
> >North Korea has just announced that they have nuclear weapons.
> >In my opinion, they are not useful; they are a threat.  If we
> >leave tinpot dictatorships alone long enough, they will do
> >exactly this.  If we leave Iran alone long enough, they will do
> >this.  (Listen closely to the negotiations with "old Europe" on
> >the Iran front; note how Iran is playing for time; note how
> >"containment" is likely to result in a Muslim nuclear power).
> Do exactly - what? Develop nuclear weapons? How does that make them any 
> more of a threat than, say, the United States? 

If you cannot understand the difference between Iran and the 
United States, you are beyond hope.  Seriously.  The US has its 
flaws, but I'm not inclined to wait until an Iranian nuke 
detonates in New York to take preventative action.

> What has North Korea done by the way of invading sovereign 
> nations, human rights violations, etc., that the U.S. hasn't? 

North Korea is a communist dictatorship.  

That the US is not perfect does not mean that it is not much, 
much better than North Korea.

> If I were a developing nation in a troubled region, I 
> would certainly want some nuclear power, if only to protect me from what 
> the big guns like the U.S. and its various cronies might do to me.

Y'know, I would too.  But while I believe nuclear proliferation 
is inevitable in the long run, I prefer to put it off as long as 
possible.  And insofar as it is possible, I would prefer to keep 
those weapons out of the hands of people likely to either use 
them, or give them to terrorists (who would certainly use them).

North Korea has explicitly threatened to export it's 
claimed nuclear weapons.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0107686.html
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During talks with China and the U.S. in April, North Korea 
announced that it had already produced nuclear weapons and 
threatened to test or export them.

Kim has regularly used threats and hostile acts to try to wring 
aid from the international community...

The International Atomic Energy Agency announced in May 2004 that 
is has strong evidence that North Korea supplied Libya with about 
two tons of uranium. If true, this would indicate that North 
Korea has moved beyond selling missile technology.
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Believing that North Korea can be trusted with nuclear weapons is 
foolish.  I am perfectly willing to let that country sit there 
unmolested so long as its army remains within its borders, and it 
neither possesses nor seeks to possess nuclear weapons.   

-- 
Matthew Hunter (matthew at infodancer.org)
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