On Apr 18, 2005, at 8:40 PM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > I'd like comments and suggestions from people here, especially on > anything that's clearly wrong, and then on anything solidly known > about any of the houses that I have omitted. More examples of famous > house members would be good -- and please provide cites for where they > appear. I need to add the cites for the ones I've got so far. For the Athyra, I'm not sure "cold and distant intellectuals" really covers it. My impression is that knowledge isn't as important to them as power, and that understanding something is more a means to control it than an end in itself. (TPG p.121: "...still it was the aftermath of the reign of the Athyra, a House with as little use for impractical knowledge as the House of the Dragon would have for anything that didn't cut or thrust.") The Duke of Wellborn, once Discreet to Tortaalik I, might qualify as a famous Athyra. (Introduced in Chapter the Twenty-First of TPG.) - - Matt - -