Hi, On my thinking we do not know who Grita's mother was: Kenneth Gorelick wrote on Tue, 05 Jul 2005 22:36:42 -0400 >Depends on whether you have read the last Khaavren romances or not... Nope, making the connection did not depend on that. Recently finished with my second read of The Paths of the Dead and The Lord of Castle Black. Somewhere in my second read of Sethra Lavode. I still did not make the connection. Thank you, Kenneth Gorelick, for pointing it out. Thank you, Bryan Newell, for the explanation and pointing it out so long ago. Now that I know this, I am a little worried that I will forget it. It is not something I want to remember or think too much about. It is sort of haunting. Bye. Linda G.