Howard Brazee wrote: >> > Catholicism traditionally has been more practical than that. They > have mortal and venial sins. One result in moving away from > traditional authority is that we are more concerned with whether the > sin is intentional, whether it is a secular or church sin. Someone > who kills in anger is considered less culpable than someone who kills > for the insurance. But society is in more danger from the person who > kills in anger. There are good Catholic girls who avoid birth > control as a "planned" sin, and get backed into a corner and have > abortions. But the Catholic church doesn't really care about venial > sins (birth control) much - it is the mortal sins (abortion) that are > the worry. Hello to all: I am spanish, a mainly catholic country, and I can say that catholics are against all who is forbidden by their religion: abortion, birh control or even civil marriage. Here, where the "conservative" party touchs power, birth control progams simply disappear, public schools get no funds in favour of private religious ones, and no married couples get into trouble to get services avaliable to married ones, altough iy has been ruled by the judges that they deserve the same treatment under our constitution. Last year, when a military plane crashed returning from Irak, and all the passengers died, the goverment denied the non married woman with children all who was granted to married ones. They get no rights until the goverment change hands. This year, catholics are worry because the goverment has ruled that the subject "religion" will not be mandatory in public schools. The boys and girls will get no califications if they choose this subject. They say the goverment is attacking their religion beliefs. Last days, the parlament ruled that homosexuals couples get the same rights as hetero ones, so now they can marry. The Catholic bishops called catholic civil servants to disobey the law. Today, many judges refuse to celebrate homo marriages questioning the constitutionality of the law. I think many of the members of the list are North Americans. I talk about my country because I do not want to start a flame against USA goverment or american religious beliefs. I have enough with my own country, and nothing against US citizens. Just remember why the first colonist crossed the ocean. ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo! Nuevos servicios, m?s seguridad http://correo.yahoo.es