Thank you David!!!! The stuff before June 2005 is in the old place http://dragaera.info/mailinglists/archive.cgi?1 All the way back to May 2002!!!! The newer stuff is here http://lists.dd-b.net/pipermail/dragaera/ You can also get to them by going to http://dragaera.info/mailinglists/ and clicking on the word archive for the mailing list you want to look at. "the new mailing list carries on from here, and in theory we'd like to integrate the archives at some point." Please take your time David on integrating the old and new archives, I am just glad no data was lost. Bye. Linda G.