> -----Original Message----- > Why is that odd? Creations more powerful than the creators > is common > in real life and in myths. I don't recall whether it was in a book or an apocryphal statement by Steve, but it's been said that The Cycle is a fundamental law of the universe. If true, then it was clearly not created by the Lords of Judgement. Certainly, they seem to have no particular power over it. It may be that they (or the Jenoine!) discovered it and simply adapted it for their purposes.