the honing of Vlad

Jon_Lincicum at stream.com Jon_Lincicum at stream.com
Fri Feb 3 13:21:12 PST 2006

Davdi Silverrock <davdisil at gmail.com> 
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02/03/06 12:34 PM

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Re: the honing of Vlad

>On 2/3/06, Jon_Lincicum wrote:
>> Yes, and it only took the Catholic Church 800 years or so after that to
>> decide whether Jesus had "become" god, or had just "gone to be with" 
>> (A debate that still come up from time to time, actually.)
>I've been reading up a bit on the history of the Church, and it was a
>lot earlier than 800 that that was decided by the Catholic Church. 
>The first council of Nicea was 325, for example.
>   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed

Well, yes. I may be guilty of exaggerating. It was only 3 centuries 
instead of 8. 

But, as you say, this issue continued to be somewhat devisive in the 
church after this point, anyway.

>As you say, there has been more than a little disagreement, both then
>and now, and skimming the above page (and subsidiary pages), the issue
>is rather confused, as one might well expect.
>But the Catholic Church and most mainstream Christians follow the
>Nicene Creed, which states outright that Jesus was "true God from true
>God".  Which is... well, best not get into theological arguments here.

Indeed. I didn't mean to spark a religious debate or anything.