On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Scott Schultz wrote: > >> Once you're a citizen, your kids have the option to become citizens. > >Says who? > > Common sense if nothing else. Says who? > Does the Orb call to the child of a naturalized Easterner? Open question, Fine. > Titles of nobility are clearly heritable under normal circumstances. > Again, you have to show that titled Easterners are an exception, not > challenge someone to prove that they're not. Sorry, but you don't get to decide what's privileged, or what's "normal circumstances" for that matter. And judging from the above you still don't even get my claim - which is that for all we know titles and citizenship of the sort Vlad's father bought aren't heritable. > >> Now, if you want to speculate that "naturalized" citizens have different > >> rights than "native-born" citizens, you can do that but there's no textev > >> for that position. > > >Incorrect - see earlier. > > I'm afraid you'll have to quote it for me again, then. I don't see any such > evidence when I "see earlier". Relative ease of purchase of title (Vlad's father not being rich). Lack of the Jhereg being all Easterner, as indicated by Vlad having met many Jhereg and only one other Easterner among them, and people being surprised to see him in House colors. All indications being that Easterners are fruitful and multiply. The simplest consequence of the above being lots of Eastern citizens, then nothing but. Same story for House Teckla. > Just a lot of speculation. Well, by that standard we hardly know anything.