From dd-b at dd-b.net Mon Jun 10 16:03:35 2002 From: dd-b at dd-b.net (David Dyer-Bennet) Date: 10 Jun 2002 18:03:35 -0500 Subject: First test Message-ID: <1023750215.26164.TMDA@dd-b.net> First test message. -- David Dyer-Bennet, dd-b at dd-b.net / New TMDA anti-spam in test John Dyer-Bennet 1915-2002 Memorial Site http://john.dyer-bennet.net Book log: http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/Ouroboros/booknotes/ New Dragaera mailing list, see http://dragaera.info From Starshadw at aol.com Tue Jun 11 18:04:39 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 21:04:39 EDT Subject: Let's get this party started! Message-ID: <32.2832ff57.2a37f827@aol.com> I don't know who all has joined yet, so perhaps just a roll call will get us going. Let me know who you are, and what you hope for in the RPG. Then, we can really start getting things set up. I am trying my best to get some kind of website up and running by Friday. I don't know if the message board on the site will be up by then, but at least we will have a "presence" on the Internet and can possibly start getting some hits. I hope everyone is going to be willing to help out in doing the research to get this thing moving. One thing I do think is necessary is to read the books again and take notes on such things as: magic items, new/possible new skills/advantages/disadvantages, how magic works, cultural and racial items of note, etc. Not that this has to happen before we can start RPing, but I do think we should try and make our RPG reflect the world as much as possible. Well, that's it for starters! Stacy From dan-tain_ishanti at attbi.com Tue Jun 11 18:03:11 2002 From: dan-tain_ishanti at attbi.com (Brad Crawford) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 18:03:11 -0700 Subject: Let's get this party started! References: <32.2832ff57.2a37f827@aol.com> Message-ID: <00d101c211ac$ec547400$8fd47e18@we.client2.attbi.com> I guess the first thing we need to do is make a solid choice as to what system of game mechanics we will use. I for one vote for D&D3e 'cause I know it . If we go Gurps what books do we need? Brad From Starshadw at aol.com Tue Jun 11 19:06:14 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:06:14 EDT Subject: Let's get this party started! Message-ID: <4c.cc223b5.2a380696@aol.com> In a message dated 6/11/2002 7:17:21 PM Mountain Daylight Time, dan-tain_ishanti at attbi.com writes: > I for one vote for D&D3e 'cause I know it . If we go Gurps what books do we > need? > Actually, I think I'd like to try and make it so people wouldn't absolutely HAVE to go out and buy books - I'm going to put up pages which will list which advantages, disadvantages and skills are applicable and tell people if they have any questions on the details of a skill, to post to the message board and someone will put up a more complete description. I've decided to start with GURPS because it's got a little more flexibility as far as creating new types of things - the magic system, for one, will be easier to replicate using GURPS. The SJG website has some pretty decent free stuff, too. Here is the web address for that: http://new.sjgames.com/ Of course, you can always buy books if you want - I would go for used versions if you can find decent ones. The only real book you might want to have on hand is the Basic One. You won't need either the Psionics or Magic books since Brust's system doesn't fit with any of the rules in them. Stacy From moodygrrl at earthlink.net Tue Jun 11 20:51:48 2002 From: moodygrrl at earthlink.net (Lori Reeder) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:51:48 -0500 Subject: Let's get this party started! References: <32.2832ff57.2a37f827@aol.com> Message-ID: <001c01c211c4$7c16dad0$4149c343@moodygrrl> Starshadw at aol.com wrote: > I don't know who all has joined yet, so perhaps just a roll call will > get us going. Let me know who you are, and what you hope for in the > RPG. Then, we can really start getting things set up. > Hello, I'm here, I have played D&Ded2 but no other variety of RPG, online or off. I will be getting up to speed with D&Ded3 at the end of June (we had an ed2 campaign to finish) so D&Ded3 will be something I don't need to bone up on. Other than that I'm willing to learn a new system, but a similar or simple one would be best for my level of experience. My hope for the RPG is mainly to have fun, and 'experience' a little bit of Dragaera. We are going to be playing post-Interregnum, right? > I hope everyone is going to be willing to help out in doing the > research to get this thing moving. One thing I do think is necessary > is to read the books again and take notes on such things as: magic > items, new/possible new skills/advantages/disadvantages, how magic > works, cultural and racial items of note, etc. Not that this has to > happen before we can start RPing, but I do think we should try and > make our RPG reflect the world as much as possible. > I'm not very experienced at RPGs, but I am willing to help with the research, just let me know what you need. > Well, that's it for starters! > > Stacy I'm excited to be here and know there are so many other fans of Dragaera, all my friends read fantasy and sf but I haven't been able to talk anyone into starting Steve's books - so far... Thanks for organizing, Stacy! Lori From Starshadw at aol.com Tue Jun 11 21:00:04 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 00:00:04 EDT Subject: Let's get this party started! Message-ID: In a message dated 6/11/2002 9:52:14 PM Mountain Daylight Time, moodygrrl at earthlink.net writes: > Other than that I'm willing to learn a new system, but > a similar or simple one would be best for my level of experience. > My hope for the RPG is mainly to have fun, and 'experience' a little > bit > of Dragaera. We are going to be playing post-Interregnum, right? GURPS is, while not similar, easy to learn. I love D&D. It was the first system I played (when I was 9) and I have played it in every incarnation since then. But what I like about GURPS when dealing with "world translation" is that there is more flexibility. You'll see what I mean. The HERO system someone mentioned actually has as much, if not more flexibility than GURPS but it is much more cumbersome and the learning curve is higher. > > I'm not very experienced at RPGs, but I am willing to help > with the research, just let me know what you need. What I'll do is post my "notes" so far for Jhereg so people can get an idea. I just loaned the book (this time, I'm keeping close track because this is how I keep "losing" the book) to someone, so I'm going to focus on the website until I get the book back. > > Thanks for organizing, Stacy! > Hey, I'm just getting things started - I hope to get lots of help! :) Stacy From pendragon at vaxer.net Tue Jun 11 21:15:01 2002 From: pendragon at vaxer.net (A Knight in White Satin) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 00:15:01 -0400 Subject: Let's get this party started! In-Reply-To: <001c01c211c4$7c16dad0$4149c343@moodygrrl> References: <32.2832ff57.2a37f827@aol.com> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20020612000824.00b99640@maple.vaxer.net> At 11:51 PM 6/11/2002, you wrote: > My hope for the RPG is mainly to have fun, and 'experience' a little bit >of Dragaera. We are going to be playing post-Interregnum, right? I hope so...all that flowery speech everybody used pre-Interregnum would wear out my typing fingers! GURPS works for me OK--it was designed for just this kind of use, anyway. Pendoug -- we need to ask the list moderator to set the 'reply-to' field... -- "We're at an awkward point in USian history-- it's too late to work within the system, but it's too soon to start shooting the bastards." From Starshadw at aol.com Wed Jun 12 08:03:01 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:03:01 -0400 Subject: Notes on Jhereg Message-ID: <684E508E.09DDBD97.0296E7C9@aol.com> As promised, here is what I had compiled so far (before lending the book out and focusing on the website): Geographical/Map: Pg3: jungles west of Adrilankha. The city was somewhat more than a hundred miles away Pg20: Copper Lane ? street in Adrilankha Pg22: The Blue Flame ? restaurant in Adrilankha in Vlad?s territory Pg29: Lower Kieron Road ? street in Adrilankha Pg43: few thousand square miles of jungle Pg77: Castle Black, some 200 miles northeast (of Adrilankha?) Magic: Pg4: Witchcraft Spell ? Call Familiar. Components ? small black brazier, bag of coals, single black candle, stick of incense, dead teckla, dried gorynth leaves (plant sacred to some Eastern religions) Pg5: Witchcraft Spell ? Create Flame Pg5: Witchcraft Spell ? Enhance/Increase/Feed Flame Pg7: link to Orb allows sorcery Pg35: Sorcery Spell ? Tracking Pg47: Psionic ?Spell? ? Location Pg47: witchcraft uses psionic power Pg50: use of the word ?wizard? Pg60: ?To use sorcery, all you do is reach out through your link to the Imperial Orb, grab some power, shape it, and throw it. With witchcraft, however, you have to plan carefully and precisely so that you don?t end up searching around for some implement you need? Pp60-61: ?clear advantages witchcraft enjoys over sorcery is that more than one witch can participate in a single spell.? Pg67: physical exhaustion and psionic drain with use of witchcraft Skills/Advantages/Disadvantages: Pg8 ? Move Silently Pg8 ? Blend/Move with a crowd Pg19 ? Unseen/Unnoticed (Kragar) Pp39-42: description of different types of assassination Pg50: Appraisal-on-Sight House info/Cultural: Pg22: House Jhereg run by a five-member Council. Demon is #2 man. Pg72: Dragaeran Empire has existed for 200,000 ? 250,000 years Pg72: Each House keeps records (Jhereg are pretty bad and corrupt about this) and the Lyorn keep records on everybody. Stacy From Starshadw at aol.com Fri Jun 14 13:29:03 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 16:29:03 EDT Subject: Website Update Message-ID: <18e.937d692.2a3bac0f@aol.com> Ladies and gentlemen, we have a domain name: www.dragaera-rpg.com The website is NOT THERE yet (so don't go copying and pasting that sucker just yet). Someone on the list had made an offer to possibly help with hosting. If you are still interested, please contact me. If I don't hear >from you (no worries - it's entirely up to you), I'm going to go with F5hosting.com - I have a number of friends who highly recommend them. I have found a shareware program that will handle all of the "restricted access" details: if you'd like to check it out: http://cgi.elitehost.com/ At the bottom is a "Quick Find" - select the Account Manager LITE option in the Shareware drop-down menu, and click Go. I've also found a good free message board software. Again, if you'd like to check it out: http://www.phpbb.com/ I really am trying to get this thing up quickly so we can at least start discussing the information I have in there already, and can start tweaking it, adding to it, etc. My priorities are: 1. Get a little more info on the site (Skills, a little more on the magic) 2. Get the website up 3. Get the Account Manager Lite software working 4. Get the message board working 4 is way low on the list, and since we do have this mailing list, it's possible it may get pushed further down. Guys/Gals, I know a fair amount about creating websites in terms of using FrontPage and Dreamweaver (our site is being built in Dreamweaver) but I know very little about these other types of applications, and given that all of the sites I have created have been done with a special intranet connection to a web server (thus eliminating the need to deal with web hosting services) and have had no need for these supplemental items, and help/advice/knowledge/expertise any of you have is greatly appreciated and needed. I know I jumped right up and asked about RPGing, but I would like to see us approach this as more of a team - I'd like to put everyone's name on the website giving credit wherever credit is due (content development, brainstorming, website development, graphics, flash, character templates, etc) Stacy From zizban at adelphia.net Fri Jun 14 14:09:56 2002 From: zizban at adelphia.net (Chris Turkel) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 17:09:56 -0400 Subject: Website Update In-Reply-To: <18e.937d692.2a3bac0f@aol.com> Message-ID: <1428F7E2-7FDB-11D6-A0A2-00039386187A@adelphia.net> > The one problem with that shareware program is that it only runs on NT and Unix. I use a Mac :-) ------ Chris Turkel Guru, Dragaera Readalong List http://dragaera.info From zizban at adelphia.net Fri Jun 14 14:11:55 2002 From: zizban at adelphia.net (Chris Turkel) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 17:11:55 -0400 Subject: Website Update In-Reply-To: <18e.937d692.2a3bac0f@aol.com> Message-ID: <5ABC5894-7FDB-11D6-A0A2-00039386187A@adelphia.net> On Friday, June 14, 2002, at 04:29 PM, Starshadw at aol.com wrote: > > (snipped) Of course I think the script is server side; it doesn't have to installed by end users so forget that last message. :-) ------ Chris Turkel Guru, Dragaera Readalong List http://dragaera.info From Starshadw at aol.com Mon Jun 17 06:43:10 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 09:43:10 -0400 Subject: Web Hosting Message-ID: <32FDE059.3B7BE5CF.0296E7C9@aol.com> OK, as I said, I'm not too savvy when it comes to hosting services and what it all boils down to meaning, so if anyone out there has more experience and could help out with choosing which plan to go with, that would be great! www.f5hosting.com has a number of plans, but I don't think we need the upper end ones (at least not for the foreseeable future). The $10 plan has: 20 Meg Storage 5 gig transfer 10 Pop3 accounts 0 Subdomains My main concern is whether 20 Meg is enough space The $12.95 plan has: 50 Meg Storage 7 gig transfer 25 Pop3 accounts 2 Subdomains There is also a $15.95 plan, but I don't know if I can afford that one long-term (because I'd like to get my own website up and running in the near future), but it does have more bang for the few more bucks: 200 Meg Storage 10 gig Transfer 50 Pop3 accounts 10 Subdomains So those of you with more knowledge, let me know which of the plans you think is best. My concern with space is because of the message board - since it may become heavily used (what with having both OOC conversations AND actual gaming going on). Of course, maybe that would mean I'd just have to do a little more work (or someone else with access to the site) and archive messages so we could delete them and keep the space free. If I can make some kind of decision today on this, I think I might be able to get the website up by Wednesday (at the latest). I spent the weekend getting more of the basic information on it, and now I really need to just get it online so I can get that Account Manager LITE and the phpBB software added on to it. Stacy From dd-b at dd-b.net Mon Jun 17 09:09:38 2002 From: dd-b at dd-b.net (David Dyer-Bennet) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 11:09:38 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Web Hosting In-Reply-To: Starshadw@aol.com's message <32FDE059.3B7BE5CF.0296E7C9@aol.com> of 17 June 2002 References: <32FDE059.3B7BE5CF.0296E7C9@aol.com> Message-ID: <15630.2498.628362.536880@gw.dd-b.net> Starshadw at aol.com writes on 17 June 2002 at 09:43:10 -0400 > OK, as I said, I'm not too savvy when it comes to hosting services > and what it all boils down to meaning, so if anyone out there has > more experience and could help out with choosing which plan to go > with, that would be great! I've never used an external hosting company, so I'm not familiar with traps, tricks, and pitfalls. But I run a bunch of sites and have worked on more at last job, and I know something about capacity planning. > www.f5hosting.com has a number of plans, but I don't think we need > the upper end ones (at least not for the foreseeable future). > The $10 plan has: > 20 Meg Storage > 5 gig transfer > 10 Pop3 accounts > 0 Subdomains > > My main concern is whether 20 Meg is enough space > > The $12.95 plan has: > 50 Meg Storage > 7 gig transfer > 25 Pop3 accounts > 2 Subdomains Lots of places will let you upgrade an account fairly easily, so maybe you could start with the smaller plan and upgrade if needed. It does make one more thing to keep an eye on, though. >From the dragaera list archive, it looks like each 100 messages occupy about 450,000 bytes. At that rate you can actually start to eat into 20meg in something less than geological time. So make some guesses about messages per month, and how many months archive you want to keep around, and see how that goes. Messages are likely to average shorter on a web-board, since most of them don't support quoting, and the user interface generally just isn't amenable to extended prose, but I wouldn't venture to guess *how much* shorter. You're *very* unlikely to run into the 5 gig transfer limit (I assume that's per month?) unless you start serving a lot of graphics, or get really unexpectedly popular. -- David Dyer-Bennet, dd-b at dd-b.net / New TMDA anti-spam in test John Dyer-Bennet 1915-2002 Memorial Site http://john.dyer-bennet.net Book log: http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/Ouroboros/booknotes/ New Dragaera mailing lists, see http://dragaera.info From Starshadw at aol.com Mon Jun 17 09:18:57 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 12:18:57 -0400 Subject: Web Hosting Message-ID: <64CE7F3C.22C9F1AD.0296E7C9@aol.com> In a message dated Mon, 17 Jun 2002 11:55:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dd-b at dd-b.net writes: > Lots of places will let you upgrade an account fairly >easily, so maybeyou could start with the smaller plan and >upgrade if needed. It does make one more thing to keep an >eye on, though. Exactly. I wonder if I shouldn't go with the $12.95 plan just so I don't have to start checking how much space we're using on a daily basis. F5hosting does a daily backup of the site, so at least that's covered. >From the dragaera list archive, it looks like each 100 >messages occupy about 450,000 bytes. At that rate you can >actually start to eat into 20meg in something less than >geological time. So make some guesses about messages per >month, and how many months archive you want to keep around, >and see how that goes. Im assuming (perhaps incorrectly) that the message board software must have a way to archive topics, so I could literally archive, then write to a CD and then delete said old topics so they would no longer be on the web server at all. I hope that's correct. > You're *very* unlikely to run into the 5 gig transfer limit >I assume that's per month?) unless you start serving a lot of > graphics, or get really unexpectedly popular. Yes, that's per month. I wouldn't think we'd go over, either. My biggest concern is space. But you could be right about just starting with the $10 plan and seeing what happens. Thanks for all the advice and help! Stacy From dgf at dd-b.net Mon Jun 17 15:25:01 2002 From: dgf at dd-b.net (dgf at dd-b.net) Date: 17 Jun 2002 22:25:01 -0000 Subject: Onlinerpg subscriber list Message-ID: <20020617222501.28481.qmail@dd-b.net> alipkin (at) learnlink.emory.edu (email) "Adam Lipkin" ambyrglow (at) softhome.net (email) ambyrglow (at) softhome.net corwin (at) mpls.cx (email) corwin (at) mpls.cx dan-tain_ishanti (at) attbi.com (email) "Brad Crawford" dd-b (at) dd-b.net (email) dgf (at) dd-b.net (post) furryjawa (at) yahoo.com (email) David Lish joelynch (at) inreach.com (email) "Joe Lynch" moodygrrl (at) earthlink.net (email) "Lori Reeder" moonblossom (at) dodgenet.com (email) "Dale Rippke" Orchidkngt (at) aol.com (email) Orchidkngt (at) aol.com pendragon (at) vaxer.net (email) A Knight in White Satin starshadw (at) aol.com (email) zizban (at) adelphia.net (email) Chris Turkel From rick at 404.978.org Tue Jun 18 08:31:06 2002 From: rick at 404.978.org (Rick Castello) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 11:31:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Greetings! Message-ID: <4281.192.168.1.1.1024414266.squirrel@404.978.org> I just caught up on the messages so far... Have you made final hosting arrangements already? If not, I can offer a home, at least temporarily, depending on our needs. I use so many qualifiers because I am hosting on my own home server from a DSL connection. If we believe this will be sufficient for our needs, I have no problem hosting the site, and creating shell accounts for those who will help put it together. Likewise, I also have some skill at creating websites (I've been coding by hand since 1994), and would be interested and willing to contribute. So. :) -Rick From dd-b at dd-b.net Tue Jun 18 09:27:25 2002 From: dd-b at dd-b.net (David Dyer-Bennet) Date: 18 Jun 2002 11:27:25 -0500 Subject: Greetings! In-Reply-To: <4281.192.168.1.1.1024414266.squirrel@404.978.org> References: <4281.192.168.1.1.1024414266.squirrel@404.978.org> Message-ID: "Rick Castello" writes: > If not, I can offer a home, at least temporarily, depending on > our needs. I use so many qualifiers because I am hosting on my > own home server from a DSL connection. Just for amusement value, let me mention that dragaera.info, these mailing lists, and a *bunch* of other stuff are all hosted on a Linux server sitting (at this moment) on the desk next to me here in my basement. On the net via a DSL connection (768k both ways). (The server is *supposed* to be up on a shelf in front of me, but it's been on the desk since the last round of disk problems. I really should move it back soon.) -- David Dyer-Bennet, dd-b at dd-b.net / New TMDA anti-spam in test John Dyer-Bennet 1915-2002 Memorial Site http://john.dyer-bennet.net Book log: http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/Ouroboros/booknotes/ New Dragaera mailing lists, see http://dragaera.info From rick at 404.978.org Tue Jun 18 09:27:25 2002 From: rick at 404.978.org (Rick Castello) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:27:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Greetings! In-Reply-To: References: <4281.192.168.1.1.1024414266.squirrel@404.978.org> Message-ID: <4856.192.168.1.1.1024417645.squirrel@404.978.org> David Dyer-Bennet said: > "Rick Castello" writes: > >> If not, I can offer a home, at least temporarily, depending on >> our needs. I use so many qualifiers because I am hosting on my >> own home server from a DSL connection. > > Just for amusement value, let me mention that dragaera.info, these > mailing lists, and a *bunch* of other stuff are all hosted on a Linux > server sitting (at this moment) on the desk next to me here in my > basement. On the net via a DSL connection (768k both ways). > > (The server is *supposed* to be up on a shelf in front of me, but it's > been on the desk since the last round of disk problems. I really > should move it back soon.) Here's a thought, then. (I have to keep myself from falling into pre-Interregnum speech while reading TPG) Why don't we try hosting the RPG stuff on the same dragaera.info server, and if/when it begins to outgrow it, we split off a portion and host it on my Linux server (that is on its shelf). Perhaps host game info on one server and message board posts on another? We can point subdomains at each box so as not to be too confusing, or even just alias subdirectories to do the same. Thoughts? [I'm running Red Hat 7.2 Linux, Apache, PHP4, and various other goodies.] -Rick From Starshadw at aol.com Tue Jun 18 09:39:04 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:39:04 -0400 Subject: Web Hosting Message-ID: <152C0EF2.2A0F32F4.0296E7C9@aol.com> >Here's a thought, then. (I have to keep myself from falling >into pre-Interregnum speech while reading TPG) Why don't we >try hosting the RPG stuff on the same dragaera.info server, >and if/when it begins to outgrow it, we split off a portion >and host it on my Linux server (that is on its shelf). Perhaps >host game info on one server and message board posts on >another? We can point subdomains at each box so as not to be >too confusing, or even just alias subdirectories to do the >same. Thoughts? I'm certainly not adverse to the idea, but I do want to make sure I wouldn't take up too much space on your servers, and I'd rather not have to move the site again after 2-6 months. I'd like for it to have a permanent home, at least for a while (meaning a year or so). F5hosting does allow a 30-day policy, so I could cancel and we could try this, but before you are certain you can do this, check out: The message board software we will be running: phpbb and the PERL program which will handle our registration functions: Account Manager LITE. If you look back in the posts, I posted the websites for both of those. Also, I checked last night, and the site already is about 4 Meg, and that is without a lot of heavy graphics and such. So I have no idea how much it will grow, or how fast. I guess the question is: how much space and traffic are you (one or both) willing to offer to the RPG site? Stacy From dd-b at dd-b.net Tue Jun 18 10:10:34 2002 From: dd-b at dd-b.net (David Dyer-Bennet) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:10:34 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Wen Hosting - revisited In-Reply-To: Starshadw@aol.com's message <5ABAD6DF.536BB414.0296E7C9@aol.com> of 18 June 2002 References: <5ABAD6DF.536BB414.0296E7C9@aol.com> Message-ID: <15631.27018.776745.561765@gw.dd-b.net> Starshadw at aol.com writes on 18 June 2002 at 12:49:19 -0400 > >Here's a thought, then. (I have to keep myself from falling >into pre-Interregnum speech while reading TPG) Why don't we >try hosting the RPG stuff on the same dragaera.info server, >and if/when it begins to outgrow it, we split off a portion >and host it on my Linux server (that is on its shelf). Perhaps >host game info on one server and message board posts on >another? We can point subdomains at each box so as not to be >too confusing, or even just alias subdirectories to do the >same. Thoughts? > > I'm certainly not adverse to the idea, but I do want to make sure I wouldn't take up too much space on your servers, and I'd rather not have to move the site again after 2-6 months. I'd like for it to have a permanent home, at least for a while (meaning a year or so). I'm currently not able to commit to additional sites here; the work we're doing on the Dragaera site is pretty open-ended, and I'm already pretty heavily committed on bandwidth, so I can't in good conscience take on new stuff at the moment. -- David Dyer-Bennet, dd-b at dd-b.net / New TMDA anti-spam in test John Dyer-Bennet 1915-2002 Memorial Site http://john.dyer-bennet.net Book log: http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/Ouroboros/booknotes/ New Dragaera mailing lists, see http://dragaera.info From Starshadw at aol.com Tue Jun 18 16:03:54 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 19:03:54 EDT Subject: We're ONLINE!! Message-ID: Yup - the website is at least up. And of course, I already see things I want to change (for some reason, the banner graphic that looked FINE when I previewed it looks awful now but since the name is going to change anyway it doesn't matter. Anyhow, the actual name won't be attached to the site for another 24-72 hours, but if you type the following in: http://66.28.159.153 you can see the site (such as it is). Just click on the Login button. Note we will NOT be gaming until the registration feature is working. That's next on the list, but I had to actually get the website UP before being able to get the registration feature running. This will be the only announcement on the dragarea "regular" list. If you want more information on the site, and want to help add to the content, etc., you need to join the RPG list. Stacy From rick at 404.978.org Tue Jun 18 18:31:32 2002 From: rick at 404.978.org (Rick Castello) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 21:31:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Web Hosting - revisited In-Reply-To: <15631.27018.776745.561765@gw.dd-b.net> References: <5ABAD6DF.536BB414.0296E7C9@aol.com> <15631.27018.776745.561765@gw.dd-b.net> Message-ID: <3543.192.168.1.1.1024450292.squirrel@404.978.org> David Dyer-Bennet said: > > I'm certainly not adverse to the idea, but I do want to make sure I > > wouldn't take up too much space on your servers, and I'd rather not > > have to move the site again after 2-6 months. I'd like for it to > > have a permanent home, at least for a while (meaning a year or so). > > I'm currently not able to commit to additional sites here; the work > we're doing on the Dragaera site is pretty open-ended, and I'm already > pretty heavily committed on bandwidth, so I can't in good conscience > take on new stuff at the moment. In that case, we'd probably better just stick with the current hosting option... I am, however, still willing to help with the site itself, if you like, having done quite a bit of work on such things in the past. -Rick http://rick.978.org/ From Starshadw at aol.com Tue Jun 18 22:51:45 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 01:51:45 EDT Subject: Web Hosting - revisited Message-ID: <105.176b92c8.2a4175f1@aol.com> In a message dated 6/18/2002 7:31:48 PM Mountain Daylight Time, rick at 404.978.org writes: > I am, however, still willing to help with the site itself, if you like, > having done quite a bit of work on such things in the past. > I'm hoping that everyone currently on the list will contribute in some way - be it content, graphics, etc. :) Stacy From Starshadw at aol.com Wed Jun 19 09:54:58 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 12:54:58 EDT Subject: TPG: ch2: Duke Lothinor Message-ID: <84.2a0e9704.2a421162@aol.com> Another sidebar. One has to wonder who (or maybe WHAT) he was running from (what was chasing him) that he (indirectly, of course as he was not sitting at the reins) tried to jump a coach across the Lonely Ridge??? Stacy From Starshadw at aol.com Wed Jun 19 10:05:00 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 13:05:00 EDT Subject: TPG: ch2: Duke Lothinor Grrrrrr Message-ID: <11c.12da6b5d.2a4213bc@aol.com> Obviously got sent to the WRONG list. Stupid me......still not sure how I managed it. From Starshadw at aol.com Wed Jun 19 16:34:29 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 19:34:29 EDT Subject: Where do we go from here? Message-ID: <107.13851fc7.2a426f05@aol.com> First off: the web address works now!!!!! So, you can now use: www.dragaera-rpg.com -grins- Second, as the subject line suggests - where are we headed? Well, for starters: if everyone could please go through the site and read everything. The Agreement and the Site Rules: ~~What's missing? Anything? ~~Is there anything that needs to be further explained? ~~Is there anything that needs to be changed or re-worded? Under the Advantages, Disadvantages, and Skills: ~~I've already made a few changes to some of the skills to bring them more in line with Drgaera. Are there further changes - point costs, difficult level, etc. that need to be made? ~~What new ads, disads and skills do we need? If you're interested in contributing to the website in any way, please let me know: ~~What skills you have ~~What you're interested in helping with? Once we get a little more settled, I'd like to have a page on the site for "Acknowledgements" where everyone who contributes get their name up, under whatever category they worked on (ie - graphics, game system rules and mechanics, world information and content, etc) What do you think of the site so far? ( I know it'a bare bones, but still). Do you like the set-up? Organization? Colors? One thing I do want to do is not get too graphically heavy on most pages (obviously, if we start to do maps and such there will be an area in the Resources for them)- this will keep the site from slowing down too much and will also make it easier for visitors with visual disabilities using a screen reader to access the site. Those of you who want to GM, let me know! I hope I'm not the only one! I think it would be fun to have several games going - that way, we all get a chance to play. Those of you who just want to play - that's great! Start thinking about your PC and if you don't have the GURPS books, go to the SJGames website (links on our site) and download the GURPS Lite document. It really is a very good document, and it will tell you all about those Ads, Disads and Skills up there, as well as everything else you need to know (Attributes, Combat, making dice rolls, etc.) Some of you may have noticed, while others may not - we have 25 Pop3 Email accounts that are part of the $12.95/month package. Any ideas on what (if anything) we want to do with those? I have no idea how to use them, but I'm pretty sure I can somehow set them to forward to other Emails. Meaning if I give myself one of them, I can have it forward right to my AOL Email. The message board should be up within a week. I know I'm not going to want to be the only one moderating the boards. I know the phpbb software has a way to set up "moderators" who have certain capabilities that the general members do not have (not as many as Admin - that would be me). So, is there anyone interested in doing that? I'm thinking that GM's will have to be moderators of their own particular message boards (if they are running a message-based game, or are having their PCs post character journals, etc.) but there will still be: OOC boards and FFRP boards. We also need to think about the organization of the boards. Here's some first thoughts. Main Area: FFRP Boards ~~Under here may be several boards - different locations within the city, perhaps? For example, a board for a gambling den, where people can "walk in" with their PCs and then FFRP with anyone else who "happens" to be in there? Or a board "at court" at the Palace, again where people can FFRP with others also at court? Main Area: OOC Boards ~~Under here would be boards where game announcements and recruiting would take place, rules discussions, etc. Main Area: IC Boards ~~All message-based games (whether they were strictly message-based or set up so chat game PCs could continue to role-play (FFRP) with each other outside of chat, would be under here (each game would have it's own board). Also here might be boards where PCs could have their character journals (post their thoughts after chat game sessions, etc.) Yeesh - long Email, Here are some things I think we still need on the site: World Info - culture, geography, House info, Fenarian info, etc. Weapons List - list of all weapons available, with their stats and damage. ???What else??? As for the Magic system - take a look at it, and start thinking about it. It's not finished at all, but I do think it's headed in the right direction. Come one, everyone - I can't do this all by myself!!! :-) Stacy From Starshadw at aol.com Sun Jun 23 21:58:16 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 00:58:16 EDT Subject: Is anybody out there?!?!?! Message-ID: <142.106f8419.2a4800e8@aol.com> Hello?!?!? -walking down lonely halls- Just wanted to let you know that the website has been updated. I'm talking with our web hosting service right now about the membership registration issue, and they are supposed to be setting up the message board, so maybe that will be active sometime later this week? I hope so..... Please start posting the types of characters you're wanting to create for this first campaign (which I will be running - especially since no one else volunteered! LOL) If you haven't already, download that GURPS Lite (those of you who don't own the books). Stacy From Starshadw at aol.com Mon Jun 24 16:42:50 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 19:42:50 EDT Subject: We're up and running! Message-ID: <150.fd2f0ee.2a49087a@aol.com> Yep - thanks to the fantastic folks at f5hosting, we now have our signup. It's actually on the agreement page - what I'll do is re-edit the homepage and make it so it says membership. Just go to the homepage, click on Agreement - read it - scroll to the bottom, check the box, then put the appropriate information in!! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!! Whose ready to start gaming?? Stacy From rick at 404.978.org Mon Jun 24 20:42:46 2002 From: rick at 404.978.org (Rick Castello) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 23:42:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Is anybody out there?!?!?! In-Reply-To: <142.106f8419.2a4800e8@aol.com> References: <142.106f8419.2a4800e8@aol.com> Message-ID: <1264.192.168.1.1.1024976566.squirrel@404.978.org> > Hello?!?!? -walking down lonely halls- > > Just wanted to let you know that the website has been updated. I'm > talking with our web hosting service right now about the membership > registration issue, and they are supposed to be setting up the message > board, so maybe that will be active sometime later this week? I hope > so..... > > Please start posting the types of characters you're wanting to create > for this first campaign (which I will be running - especially since no > one else volunteered! LOL) If you haven't already, download that GURPS > Lite (those of you who don't own the books). > > Stacy I've downloaded GURPS Lite, played GURPS once before, a while ago, and am interested in playing. However, I haven't created a character yet, nor fully digested the site and game modifications. Sorry I'm lagging! -Rick From stvitus at flash.net Tue Jun 25 07:50:54 2002 From: stvitus at flash.net (nikki m. pill) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 09:50:54 -0500 Subject: We're up and running! References: <150.fd2f0ee.2a49087a@aol.com> Message-ID: <006701c21c57$b8642ae0$0201a8c0@kelly> Stacy said: > Whose ready to start gaming?? > And I say... I am! But apparently I'm a few steps behind, cause I'm not sure which home page and agreement page? I went to dragaera.info and didn't see an agreement... :( Ah well. More time to decide between Jhereg and Tiassa. Nikki, breaking her "I'm never gaming again" rule for her "All things Brust are good" rule From Starshadw at aol.com Tue Jun 25 07:55:22 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 10:55:22 -0400 Subject: Dragaera RPG website Message-ID: <22864C97.56F9B035.0296E7C9@aol.com> Our website - for those who haven't found it yet - is very easy to remember: www.dragaera-rpg.com :) Obviously, everything is still in the works, and boy if there are volunteers to help put together more detailed info on Houses, Dragaeran culture, etc. or to help in any way, that would be great! Just send an email here and let me know what you'd like to help out with!!!! Stacy From Starshadw at aol.com Wed Jun 26 21:41:23 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 00:41:23 EDT Subject: More updating to the site Message-ID: <172.a62285f.2a4bf173@aol.com> Yep. Lots of updates done tonight. Check them out! Stacy From Barbara.Baj at nyc.rabobank.com Fri Jun 28 08:54:19 2002 From: Barbara.Baj at nyc.rabobank.com (Baj, B (Barbara)) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:54:19 -0400 Subject: Testing Message-ID: <238C0811FE99D411B81D0008C7EBB3D5022D048F@nycxsn03.am.rabobank.com> I think I made it onto the list at last! - Barbara ================================================================== De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. ================================================================== The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. ================================================================== From Starshadw at aol.com Fri Jun 28 19:23:12 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:23:12 EDT Subject: Message Board up and running Message-ID: Please, everyone register for the site, then go in and register for the message board. I'm thinking I may want to make it open in a new window - let me know what you think. Also, let me know of any other FFRP "areas" that should be created. Note: you MUST have created an FFRP persona (or full GURPS character) before you start free-form role-playing in the FFRP areas. Also, I would be interested to see if you can register for the site multiple times: ie, you could have one registration that matches your site registration, and a second registration for your PC or persona so that when you are posting in character, you can log in under that name. If someone wants to give that a try - let me know if it allows you to do so. Stacy From Starshadw at aol.com Tue Jul 2 23:18:20 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 02:18:20 EDT Subject: Website Updated Yet Again Message-ID: <3e.20967812.2a53f12c@aol.com> Couple of things: The message boards are working great, so try them out! I've left several postings there, so they are just waiting for responses. We now have a potential MAP of the Dragaeran continent (just getting started on it, really). I'm looking for input on that, so please check it out and post your comments to the message board (I've started a new forum and new thread just for world discussions). And definitely pass the website along to your friends - the more the merrier! Stacy From Starshadw at aol.com Fri Jul 5 16:05:42 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 19:05:42 EDT Subject: PC Party??? Message-ID: <14b.1061a026.2a578046@aol.com> Would anyone be interested in trying to "meet" online and work on creating characters for the game? If everyone DLed and installed AIM, we could even do it in a chat room. Stacy From zizban at adelphia.net Fri Jul 5 16:35:56 2002 From: zizban at adelphia.net (Chris Turkel) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 19:35:56 -0400 Subject: PC Party??? In-Reply-To: <14b.1061a026.2a578046@aol.com> Message-ID: On Friday, July 5, 2002, at 07:05 PM, Starshadw at aol.com wrote: > Would anyone be interested in trying to "meet" online and work on > creating > characters for the game? If everyone DLed and installed AIM, we could > even > do it in a chat room. > > Stacy > I am all for it. I saw the map you posted; a little sparse but a good start! > ------ Chris Turkel Guru, Dragaera Readalong List http://dragaera.info Buy my Book! www.xlibris.com/TheWorldattheEdgeofTime.html From Starshadw at aol.com Fri Jul 5 16:41:05 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 19:41:05 EDT Subject: PC Party??? Message-ID: <17c.aa63bbf.2a578891@aol.com> In a message dated 7/5/2002 5:36:41 PM Mountain Daylight Time, zizban at adelphia.net writes: > I am all for it. I saw the map you posted; a little sparse but a good > start! Well, I was kinda hoping to get some comment on the overall SHAPE before I started trying to decide where certain geographical features go. >:) From zizban at adelphia.net Fri Jul 5 16:42:04 2002 From: zizban at adelphia.net (Chris Turkel) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 19:42:04 -0400 Subject: PC Party??? In-Reply-To: <17c.aa63bbf.2a578891@aol.com> Message-ID: On Friday, July 5, 2002, at 07:41 PM, Starshadw at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/5/2002 5:36:41 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > zizban at adelphia.net writes: > > >> I am all for it. I saw the map you posted; a little sparse but a good >> start! > > Well, I was kinda hoping to get some comment on the overall SHAPE > before I > started trying to decide where certain geographical features go. >:) > It wasn't criticism; just an observation :) ------ Chris Turkel Guru, Dragaera Readalong List http://dragaera.info Buy my Book! www.xlibris.com/TheWorldattheEdgeofTime.html From Starshadw at aol.com Fri Jul 5 16:45:10 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 19:45:10 EDT Subject: PC Party??? Message-ID: <11e.13296924.2a578986@aol.com> In a message dated 7/5/2002 5:43:00 PM Mountain Daylight Time, zizban at adelphia.net writes: > It wasn't criticism; just an observation :) I'm all for criticism! Give me criticism! Give me something to work with!! -grinning- From rick at 404.978.org Fri Jul 5 16:54:15 2002 From: rick at 404.978.org (Rick Castello) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 19:54:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: PC Party??? In-Reply-To: <14b.1061a026.2a578046@aol.com> References: <14b.1061a026.2a578046@aol.com> Message-ID: <1144.192.168.1.1.1025913255.squirrel@404.978.org> > Would anyone be interested in trying to "meet" online and work on > creating characters for the game? If everyone DLed and installed AIM, > we could even do it in a chat room. > > Stacy YES! This is an excellent idea, and also a very good way for players (and GM!) to get to know everyone playing a little bit. It's also very good for developing any character background relationships- that is, unless all the characters are just going to bump into each other in a tavern and get hired for a job, as many poorly begun (but sometimes worthwhile) adventures are wont to do. -Rick From ambyrglow at SoftHome.net Fri Jul 5 17:19:10 2002 From: ambyrglow at SoftHome.net (Claire Rojstaczer) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 20:19:10 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Re: PC Party??? Message-ID: > > Would anyone be interested in trying to "meet" online and work on >> creating characters for the game? If everyone DLed and installed AIM, >> we could even do it in a chat room. >> > > Stacy That sounds great. . .I've been too busy to read GURPS this past week, but should have plenty of time early this weekend. Claire From Starshadw at aol.com Sun Jul 7 13:26:01 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 16:26:01 EDT Subject: PC Party and Website Message-ID: <155.107eb4b1.2a59fdd9@aol.com> Just to let you know I have updated the site again. I know it's slow-gpong, but since no one has yet vonlunteered to help with anything specific, it's just little ole' me trying to pull information together (blatant attempt at a guilt trip - did it work???) -grins- As for the PC party. Let's do this via AOL Instant Messenger, if possible. It's a free download, and I think it works on Macs as well (let me know if that is incorrect). Does anyone have difficulty in downloading and installing AIM? Stacy From zizban at adelphia.net Sun Jul 7 14:22:14 2002 From: zizban at adelphia.net (Chris Turkel) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:22:14 -0400 Subject: PC Party and Website In-Reply-To: <155.107eb4b1.2a59fdd9@aol.com> Message-ID: <9B531E80-91EF-11D6-85B8-00039386187A@adelphia.net> On Sunday, July 7, 2002, at 04:26 PM, Starshadw at aol.com wrote: > Just to let you know I have updated the site again. I know it's > slow-gpong, > but since no one has yet vonlunteered to help with anything specific, > it's > just little ole' me trying to pull information together (blatant > attempt at a > guilt trip - did it work???) -grins- > > As for the PC party. Let's do this via AOL Instant Messenger, if > possible. > It's a free download, and I think it works on Macs as well (let me know > if > that is incorrect). Does anyone have difficulty in downloading and > installing AIM? > > Stacy > > Yes AIM works on the Mac. Gaim is a version for Linux and about every variation of Unix out there (BSD, QNX, Solaris, etc). ------ Chris Turkel Guru, Dragaera Readalong List http://dragaera.info Buy my Book! www.xlibris.com/TheWorldattheEdgeofTime.html From Starshadw at aol.com Thu Jul 11 17:03:21 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:03:21 EDT Subject: Date for PC Party Message-ID: How about starting this upcoming Friday evening sometime? Also, as I said, I'm on AIM much of the time: Starshadw. I'd really like for us to get characters made, or at least get started with the number-crunching so we can start to get a feel for this. If I have time, I may try making a character or two myself as well. Stacy From zizban at adelphia.net Thu Jul 11 18:28:28 2002 From: zizban at adelphia.net (Chris Turkel) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:28:28 -0400 Subject: Date for PC Party In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thursday, July 11, 2002, at 08:03 PM, Starshadw at aol.com wrote: > How about starting this upcoming Friday evening sometime? > > Also, as I said, I'm on AIM much of the time: Starshadw. > > I'd really like for us to get characters made, or at least get started > with > the number-crunching so we can start to get a feel for this. If I have > time, > I may try making a character or two myself as well. > > Stacy > Sounds good to me. I'm zizban on AIM. > ------ Chris Turkel Guru, Dragaera Readalong List http://dragaera.info Buy my Book! www.xlibris.com/TheWorldattheEdgeofTime.html From Barbara.Baj at nyc.rabobank.com Fri Jul 12 06:09:04 2002 From: Barbara.Baj at nyc.rabobank.com (Baj, B (Barbara)) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:09:04 -0400 Subject: Date for PC Party Message-ID: <238C0811FE99D411B81D0008C7EBB3D5022D0521@nycxsn03.am.rabobank.com> Alas, count me out, much as I'd like to be in on things. No AIM, no IM of any sort available to me. Have fun! - Chance > -----Original Message----- > From: Starshadw at aol.com [mailto:Starshadw at aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 8:09 PM > To: onlinerpg at dragaera.info > Subject: Date for PC Party > > > How about starting this upcoming Friday evening sometime? > > Also, as I said, I'm on AIM much of the time: Starshadw. > > I'd really like for us to get characters made, or at least > get started with > the number-crunching so we can start to get a feel for this. > If I have time, > I may try making a character or two myself as well. > > Stacy > ================================================================== De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. ================================================================== The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. ================================================================== From Starshadw at aol.com Fri Jul 12 06:34:28 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:34:28 -0400 Subject: Date for PC Party Message-ID: <69C3B6F8.091F2182.0296E7C9@aol.com> Those of you who can't make it tonight (which seems to be most people): Go ahead and start working on your character. You can post to the message board on the site or Email me and ask as many questions as you like. If you follow those step-by-step instructions, it should be pretty easy - at least the general mechanics of doing it. THat's what I'm here for. Besides, we can't start playing until we have PCs..... Stacy From Barbara.Baj at nyc.rabobank.com Fri Jul 12 07:05:21 2002 From: Barbara.Baj at nyc.rabobank.com (Baj, B (Barbara)) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:05:21 -0400 Subject: Date for PC Party Message-ID: <238C0811FE99D411B81D0008C7EBB3D5022D0526@nycxsn03.am.rabobank.com> For those who want to take a look, I brought up the old Dragaera DB at swtmisc.ns.its.nyu.edu port 7777. It's a TinyMush. Any questions, comments, let me know. - Chance ================================================================== De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. 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Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. ================================================================== From Starshadw at aol.com Fri Jul 12 07:46:39 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:46:39 -0400 Subject: Time for PC Party Message-ID: <22B2E1FF.538730B4.0296E7C9@aol.com> I've got a bunch of things to do online anyway, so let's say that I will be online after 7pm (at the latest - again, if you have AIM, keep your eyes peeled for "Starshadw") Mountain Standard Time and probably will remain online until midnight or so MST. If we get several people on at one time, we'll open a chat room :) If not, then you can just IM me separately. Just be aware that I won't have all the answers right away - I'm still working on things. But as you people start to ask questions, I can start coming up with the answers. From Starshadw at aol.com Fri Jul 12 19:02:42 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:02:42 EDT Subject: The GM is "In" Message-ID: <128.143ee942.2a60e442@aol.com> Yup - I am online and ready and willing. PLEASE, people, create your PCs!! If you don't see me online when you first come on, just wait a few minutes! It means I had to get offline for a second to do something else. My plan is to be online for another two hours UNLESS people start to IM me and ask questions, in which case I will stay online as long as needed. I am popping off briefly to take a quick break but will be back on within the next ten minutes. Stacy From Starshadw at aol.com Sat Jul 13 11:04:38 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:04:38 EDT Subject: Announcement Message-ID: <48.e4e8d80.2a61c5b6@aol.com> Ladies and Gentlemen: I was online last night from 7:00pm MST to 11:30pm MST. Not one person came and asked for help. Not one person has sent in a character since I first "opened" up a game, and no one has sent me an Email asking for help, sooooo I can only assume there is no real interest in this. If you aren't as interested as you thought you were, that's perfectly OK. But I need to know this. I do realize that it is summer and people may be on vacation, or out enjoying the weather. And there is always real life to deal with. BUT - I have spent a great deal of time and effort into putting this RPG website together. I don't want to continue to do that if no one is interested. That would be silly and a waste. I'm not angry, but I cannot continue to devote energy to a project that isn't going anywhere. While the world information and game information is certainly not complete, there is enough information provided that characters can be created. All of us have enough world knowledge through having read the books that the more extensive knowledge, while it would be helpful, really isn't necessary for the game itself to function. So, here is what I'm going to do: the website is paid up through the end of September. If I have not received at least 5 PCs by September 15 (not necessarily in finished form - just that there are five people in contact with me working towards having finished characters so actual gaming can begin), then I will begin the process of saving the website and closing it down: I will keep a copy of it on my hard drive should enough interest appear down the road that it seems plausible to resurrect it. So, it's a challenge to those of you on the list who said they were interested, it's a challenge to those of you on the website who may not belong to the list, etc. I am always available by Email or AIM should you need help creating a character. I will be posting this announcement on the message boards as well so it gets the best coverage possible. Thanks! Stacy From Barbara.Baj at nyc.rabobank.com Wed Jul 17 08:14:12 2002 From: Barbara.Baj at nyc.rabobank.com (Baj, B (Barbara)) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:14:12 -0400 Subject: Announcement Message-ID: <238C0811FE99D411B81D0008C7EBB3D5022D056F@nycxsn03.am.rabobank.com> So... *Is* there anyone on this list other than Stacy? It's been quiet! Am I the only one trying to make a character? Has anyone on this list taken a look at: swtmisc.ns.its.nyu.edu 7777 It's the old Dragaera DB..... - Chance ================================================================== De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. 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Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. ================================================================== From zizban at adelphia.net Wed Jul 17 09:21:57 2002 From: zizban at adelphia.net (Chris Turkel) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:21:57 -0400 Subject: Announcement In-Reply-To: <238C0811FE99D411B81D0008C7EBB3D5022D056F@nycxsn03.am.rabobank.com> Message-ID: <509254D7-99A1-11D6-9D37-00039386187A@adelphia.net> On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, at 11:14 AM, Baj, B (Barbara) wrote: > > Yes, after all the chatter on the regular list about a RPG, there is has been nearly zero traffic on this list. I intend to get cracking on a character now that I'm back from a business trip to India (jet lag, yum!). ------ Chris Turkel Guru, Dragaera Readalong List http://dragaera.info Buy my Book! www.xlibris.com/TheWorldattheEdgeofTime.html From Starshadw at aol.com Wed Jul 17 09:41:58 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:41:58 EDT Subject: Announcement Message-ID: <59.1e69af63.2a66f856@aol.com> In a message dated 7/17/2002 10:30:03 AM Mountain Daylight Time, zizban at adelphia.net writes: > > > Yes, after all the chatter on the regular list about a RPG, there is has > been nearly zero traffic on this list. I intend to get cracking on a > character now that I'm back from a business trip to India (jet lag, > yum!). And don't forget that we have a message board over there where questions and such can be posted as well. Having given it more thought, I think what I will do is instead of just killing the website, I will instead make it a sub-domain of my personal website. In essence, it would remain intact, but the web address would change slightly. F5hosting has the sub-domain option, and that way even if things weren't flying by September, it wouldn't matter because I would be getting to get my personal website up (I've had a number of people ask me if I have a personal site and I keep having to tell them I have one on paper but not online) and running while still keeping the Dragaeran website online. Once I hear back from F5 on how easy/difficult it would be to implement this option, I'll double-check with Steve to make certain this is acceptable to him. If he says it is, then that will in all likelihood be what will happen. We'll see. I'm looking into a couple of difference options for not having to just slam the door shut if five characters don't show up by September 15th. I'd really like to start working on my personal website, but can't afford hosting for two sites and my site needs hosting since it will eventually be ENORMOUS if I can even do half the things I want to do on it. -grins- Stacy From Barbara.Baj at nyc.rabobank.com Wed Jul 17 12:52:32 2002 From: Barbara.Baj at nyc.rabobank.com (Baj, B (Barbara)) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:52:32 -0400 Subject: New info on web page Message-ID: <238C0811FE99D411B81D0008C7EBB3D5022D0581@nycxsn03.am.rabobank.com> Stacy: Some nice additions there. I'm wondering if Houses should have suggested 'packages' of disadvantages/advantages as you suggested there as 'strongly suggest taking this' For Dragons, I suggest adding something with regards to that honor disadvantage, which I can't recall offhand. It seems while some Dragons like Morrolan have personal honor quirks, it seems that most if not all Dragons have some sort of House Honor they hold highly. For all we know, it's dishonorable for a Yendi to be unsubtle! ;) - Chance ================================================================== De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. ================================================================== The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. ================================================================== From dgf at dd-b.net Wed Jul 17 15:25:01 2002 From: dgf at dd-b.net (dgf at dd-b.net) Date: 17 Jul 2002 22:25:01 -0000 Subject: Onlinerpg subscriber list Message-ID: <20020717222501.9668.qmail@dd-b.net> alipkin (at) learnlink.emory.edu (email) "Adam Lipkin" ambyrglow (at) softhome.net (email) ambyrglow (at) softhome.net Barbara.Baj (at) rabobank.com (email) "Baj, B (Barbara)" corwin (at) mpls.cx (email) corwin (at) mpls.cx dan-tain_ishanti (at) attbi.com (email) "Brad Crawford" dd-b (at) dd-b.net (email) deckelberry (at) yahoo.com (email) David Eckelberry dgf (at) dd-b.net (post) drkathypereillo (at) hotmail.com (email) "Dr. Kathleen Pereillo" furryjawa (at) yahoo.com (email) David Lish joelynch (at) inreach.com (email) "Joe Lynch" l3iol2iot (at) hotmail.com (email) "Chuck Evans" markbud75 (at) hotmail.com (email) "Mark Budeau" moodygrrl (at) earthlink.net (email) "Lori Reeder" moonblossom (at) dodgenet.com (email) "Dale Rippke" MorgantiDagger (at) aol.com (email) MorgantiDagger (at) aol.com nikik (at) so.org (email) "Jack Nikik" Orchidkngt (at) aol.com (digest) Orchidkngt (at) aol.com pendragon (at) vaxer.net (email) A Knight in White Satin ray (at) madrabbit.org (email) ray (at) madrabbit.org (Ray Lee) rick (at) 404.978.org (email) "Rick Castello" smed51 (at) yahoo.com (email) Smed starshadw (at) aol.com (email) stvitus (at) flash.net (email) "nikki m. pill" zizban (at) adelphia.net (email) Chris Turkel From Barbara.Baj at nyc.rabobank.com Fri Aug 16 07:20:59 2002 From: Barbara.Baj at nyc.rabobank.com (Baj, B (Barbara)) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 10:20:59 -0400 Subject: Ping! Message-ID: <238C0811FE99D411B81D0008C7EBB3D5022D06F3@nycxsn03.am.rabobank.com> How many folks on this list read the bboard on the web page? How many folks still plan on trying out Starshadows game? It's been kind of quiet, so I thought to send out feelers and test the waters, as it were. - Barbara ================================================================== De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. ================================================================== The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. ================================================================== From stvitus at flash.net Fri Aug 16 07:26:32 2002 From: stvitus at flash.net (nikki m. pill) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 09:26:32 -0500 Subject: Ping! References: <238C0811FE99D411B81D0008C7EBB3D5022D06F3@nycxsn03.am.rabobank.com> Message-ID: <009601c24530$ebb2b720$0201a8c0@kelly> I'm gaming! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Baj, B (Barbara)" To: Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 9:20 AM Subject: Ping! > How many folks on this list read the bboard on the web page? > > How many folks still plan on trying out Starshadows game? > > It's been kind of quiet, so I thought to send out feelers and > test the waters, as it were. > > - Barbara > > ================================================================== > De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en > is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht > onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en > de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. > ================================================================== > The information contained in this message may be confidential > and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you > receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents > herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. > > > ================================================================== > From Starshadw at aol.com Fri Aug 16 07:27:10 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 10:27:10 -0400 Subject: Ping! Message-ID: <3E070B61.466C6837.0296E7C9@aol.com> Not sure, but there have been a few more posts on the message boards over there. Stacy From Starshadw at aol.com Fri Aug 16 07:35:56 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 10:35:56 -0400 Subject: Ping! Message-ID: <4367C55C.15171A16.0296E7C9@aol.com> In a message dated Fri, 16 Aug 2002 9:26:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, stvitus at flash.net writes: > I'm gaming! Then where's your fecking PC, girl?!?! -grinning- Can you PLEASE re-send me that bit you wrote on Tiassa? I've lost it, and can't find it. :( From stvitus at flash.net Fri Aug 16 07:44:57 2002 From: stvitus at flash.net (nikki m. pill) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 09:44:57 -0500 Subject: Ping! References: <4367C55C.15171A16.0296E7C9@aol.com> Message-ID: <00ba01c24533$7dfee2a0$0201a8c0@kelly> Sure-- please forgive me if it's not for a week or so; I have to go on a business trip on Monday & won't be back till the 24th. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 9:35 AM Subject: Re: Ping! > In a message dated Fri, 16 Aug 2002 9:26:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, stvitus at flash.net writes: > > > I'm gaming! > > Then where's your fecking PC, girl?!?! -grinning- Can you PLEASE re-send me that bit you wrote on Tiassa? I've lost it, and can't find it. :( From Starshadw at aol.com Fri Aug 16 07:48:22 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 10:48:22 -0400 Subject: Ping! Message-ID: <1293822D.65064513.0296E7C9@aol.com> In a message dated Fri, 16 Aug 2002 9:44:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, stvitus at flash.net writes: > Sure-- please forgive me if it's not for a week or so; I > have to go on a > business trip on Monday & won't be back till the 24th. That's fine. I'm not in any position right now to get back to the website, although I'm itching to do so. But things are just way too busy on my end. I can't decide if I want to keep the frame setup or not. Stacy From dgf at dd-b.net Sat Aug 17 15:25:01 2002 From: dgf at dd-b.net (dgf at dd-b.net) Date: 17 Aug 2002 22:25:01 -0000 Subject: Onlinerpg subscriber list Message-ID: <20020817222501.11612.qmail@dd-b.net> alipkin (at) learnlink.emory.edu (email) "Adam Lipkin" ambyrglow (at) softhome.net (email) ambyrglow (at) softhome.net annoying_dude (at) yahoo.com (email) Matt Smit Barbara.Baj (at) rabobank.com (email) "Baj, B (Barbara)" cerhn (at) tribemail.com (email) Cerhn Elhasu corwin (at) mpls.cx (email) corwin (at) mpls.cx dan-tain_ishanti (at) attbi.com (email) "Brad Crawford" dd-b (at) dd-b.net (email) deckelberry (at) yahoo.com (email) David Eckelberry dgf (at) dd-b.net (post) drkathypereillo (at) hotmail.com (email) "Dr. Kathleen Pereillo" feaelin (at) kemenel.org (email) "Davis, Iain E." furryjawa (at) yahoo.com (email) David Lish joelynch (at) inreach.com (email) "Joe Lynch" l3iol2iot (at) hotmail.com (email) "Chuck Evans" markbud75 (at) hotmail.com (email) "Mark Budeau" moodygrrl (at) earthlink.net (email) "Lori Reeder" moonblossom (at) dodgenet.com (email) "Dale Rippke" MorgantiDagger (at) aol.com (email) MorgantiDagger (at) aol.com nikik (at) so.org (email) "Jack Nikik" Orchidkngt (at) aol.com (digest) Orchidkngt (at) aol.com pendragon (at) vaxer.net (email) A Knight in White Satin ray (at) madrabbit.org (email) ray (at) madrabbit.org (Ray Lee) rick (at) 404.978.org (email) "Rick Castello" sean_starratt (at) hp.com (email) "STARRATT,SEAN (HP-Vancouver,ex1)" shad (at) muegge.org (email) "Shad Muegge" smed51 (at) yahoo.com (email) Smed starshadw (at) aol.com (email) stvitus (at) flash.net (email) "nikki m. pill" zizban (at) adelphia.net (email) Chris Turkel From Starshadw at aol.com Sun Aug 18 09:11:12 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 12:11:12 EDT Subject: PC Creation Incentive Message-ID: Several days ago, I posted an incentive on the RPG message boards to perhaps get more of you creating your PCs. Check it out. >:) Stacy From Starshadw at aol.com Thu Aug 29 11:48:05 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:48:05 EDT Subject: Some website stats >:) Message-ID: <181.d95d9fa.2a9fc665@aol.com> Thought some of you might be interested: First off, we're doing really well in most of the search engines. A search for just "Dragaera" has us: #3 on Yahoo #4 on Google #5 on AOL We don't show up at all in MSN for some reason. A search for "Dragaera RPG" has us: #1 in all three of the above, and again we don't show up in MSN. If anyone has any thoughts on how to rectify that, let me know. Each of the three months we've been online, our hits and visits have gone up AND we're getting hits from all over the world, which I think is pretty spiffy. Just this month, we've had hits from: US (heh) Canada Russian Federation Denmark France Indonesia Norway Belgium Spain Brazil Sweden Argentina China Iceland Netherlands Poland UK And there are over 2400 hits where the location could not be determined. If you're from one other above countries, raise your hand and let us know! Even better, if you're from a country not listed, let us know as well! Oh, and here are the top 20 users of the site: Me (due to always fixing things and checking in) Chance Tysen Jaytee Zaphod RedWarlock Darven Markbud Garen_Tregev Naori Cerhn Maddye Ambyr Ethan Zizban Dodi Spiderman92 RanAmarth Zapp308 Jambongusa Thanks to everyone for really pulling together and making this website start to be successful. I can't wait until we get started RPing in September. Get your PCs on! Chance has already won first place as having the first "finalized" PC in and she of course got one of the two "10 point" slots. But there are still incentive points to be had, so get to work! Stacy From dgf at dd-b.net Tue Sep 17 15:25:01 2002 From: dgf at dd-b.net (dgf at dd-b.net) Date: 17 Sep 2002 22:25:01 -0000 Subject: Onlinerpg subscriber list Message-ID: <20020917222501.13623.qmail@dd-b.net> alipkin (at) learnlink.emory.edu (email) "Adam Lipkin" ambyrglow (at) softhome.net (email) ambyrglow (at) softhome.net annoying_dude (at) yahoo.com (email) Matt Smit anthonydietrich (at) hotmail.com (email) "Anthony Dietrich" Barbara.Baj (at) rabobank.com (email) "Baj, B (Barbara)" cerhn (at) tribemail.com (email) Cerhn Elhasu corwin (at) mpls.cx (email) corwin (at) mpls.cx dan-tain_ishanti (at) attbi.com (email) "Brad Crawford" dd-b (at) dd-b.net (email) deckelberry (at) yahoo.com (email) David Eckelberry dgf (at) dd-b.net (post) dmc (at) risecom.net (email) "Supratik Lahiri" don (at) easterlys.com (email) "Don Easterly" drkathypereillo (at) hotmail.com (email) "Dr. Kathleen Pereillo" ErikHolmes (at) sfcn.org (email) "Erik Holmes" feaelin (at) kemenel.org (email) "Davis, Iain E." furryjawa (at) yahoo.com (email) David Lish incitor (at) whack.org (email) incitor joecrow (at) speakeasy.net (email) Joe Crow joelynch (at) inreach.com (email) "Joe Lynch" l3iol2iot (at) hotmail.com (email) "Chuck Evans" markbud75 (at) hotmail.com (email) "Mark Budeau" markbud (at) bis.midco.net (email) markbud (at) bis.midco.net moodygrrl (at) earthlink.net (email) "Lori Reeder" moonblossom (at) dodgenet.com (email) "Dale Rippke" MorgantiDagger (at) aol.com (email) MorgantiDagger (at) aol.com nikik (at) so.org (email) "Jack Nikik" Orchidkngt (at) aol.com (digest) Orchidkngt (at) aol.com pendragon (at) vaxer.net (email) A Knight in White Satin ray (at) madrabbit.org (email) ray (at) madrabbit.org (Ray Lee) rick (at) 404.978.org (email) "Rick Castello" sabia (at) mojoworld.net (email) sean_starratt (at) hp.com (email) "STARRATT,SEAN (HP-Vancouver,ex1)" shad (at) muegge.org (email) "Shad Muegge" smed51 (at) yahoo.com (email) Smed spiderman92 (at) attbi.com (email) "Sunny Han" starshadw (at) aol.com (email) stvitus (at) flash.net (email) "nikki m. pill" Tempesttabbs (at) aol.com (email) Tempesttabbs (at) aol.com zaphod (at) charter.net (email) "Greg Schwartz" zizban (at) adelphia.net (email) Chris Turkel From Starshadw at aol.com Fri Sep 20 08:54:22 2002 From: Starshadw at aol.com (Starshadw at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:54:22 EDT Subject: Please check the site message boards! Message-ID: <9d.2e1350ba.2abc9eae@aol.com> I get the feeling that some of you aren't checking the message boards on the website and you definitely need to do so, as that is where important gaming announcements and such are being made. So please pop in there every couple of days or so and check for new messages! >:) Stacy From dgf at dd-b.net Thu Oct 17 15:25:01 2002 From: dgf at dd-b.net (dgf at dd-b.net) Date: 17 Oct 2002 22:25:01 -0000 Subject: Onlinerpg subscriber list Message-ID: <20021017222501.7631.qmail@dd-b.net> alipkin (at) learnlink.emory.edu (email) "Adam Lipkin" ambyrglow (at) softhome.net (email) ambyrglow (at) softhome.net annoying_dude (at) yahoo.com (email) Matt Smit anthonydietrich (at) hotmail.com (email) "Anthony Dietrich" Barbara.Baj (at) rabobank.com (email) "Baj, B (Barbara)" cbickell (at) bigpond.net.au (email) Claire Bickell cerhn (at) tribemail.com (email) Cerhn Elhasu corwin (at) mpls.cx (email) corwin (at) mpls.cx dan-tain_ishanti (at) attbi.com (email) "Brad Crawford" dd-b (at) dd-b.net (email) deckelberry (at) yahoo.com (email) David Eckelberry dgf (at) dd-b.net (post) dmc (at) risecom.net (email) "Supratik Lahiri" don (at) easterlys.com (email) "Don Easterly" drkathypereillo (at) 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