Dragaera

OT: bois (was: Sethra Lavode vs. Enchantress of Dzur Mountain)

Wed Aug 14 20:41:31 PDT 2002

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> >  but who
> >cares.  Language is subjective, like all things.
>
> Oh, how splendid!  An argument!
>
> <rubs hands together with glee>
>
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> It seems to me that language, while often subjective, has an objective
> element insofar as it is shared.

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> 1) The more any given group agrees on the meaning of a word, the better
> they are able to exchange ideas.
> 2) The more we have words available that make clear, nice distinctions,
the
> more precisely, elegantly, and, ultimately, creatively we are able to
think.
>

All true, I think, but consider street lingo.  Example:  Wack.  The first
time I  ever heard wack used it had a positive connotation (mid 80s).  "That
song is wack!" meaning it was "da bomb", or good.

However, today, wack is negative.  Street language continually evolves,
almost like a code.  These words filter into the language in general and are
changed again, losing many of their more subjective connotations and taking
on a more concrete form.  But still, those forms are driven by their usage
and popularization on the street.  There are east-coast hip-hop words that
have exactly the opposite meaning on the west-coast.

This, I think, is healthy, and necessary, to keep the language healthy.  In
France they say "un hotdog", or "une dollar", but in Quebec, where they
protect their language like a dog protects her young, they insist on
francophed versions.  This is not healthy, but I digress.  I guess my point
is that I think language is wonderfully subjective, especially English.
Take the conceits of John Donne or Shakespeare as examples.  Without the
subjectivity of our language, "The Flea" would simply be a poem about two
lovers bitten by a common pest.  Add a dram of subjectivity and voila, we
have a conceit within which Donne is seducing his mistress by comparing the
mixing of their blood within the beast to the mixing of other "fluids".  And
he was a minister too!  Naughty fellow.