On 15 Aug 2002, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: #I'm a counterexample. To me "non-verbal thought" is an oxymoron. #Writing badly is to me a clear sign of thinking unclearly. And so #forth. Does not compute. Writing is not the same as thinking. Writing requires words; it is by definition verbal. So the fact that a person writes badly does not prove that thought is verbal unless you assume that thought can be transmitted directly through writing, without a stage of transforming thought into words: i.e., that thought is verbal, the very point you are claiming to prove. -- Or do I misunderstand you? -- Mark A. Mandel