Dragaera

OT: Subjectivity vs. Objectivity (was: bois...)

Fri Aug 16 00:05:29 PDT 2002

At 10:16 PM 8/15/2002 -0400, James and Mary Burbidge wrote:
>Mark A Mandel wrote:
> >
> > Ah, you don't like imprecision? You must be very unhappy with English,
> > which, unlike German, fails to force its speakers to distinguish a male
> > friend (Freund) from a female one (Freundin) and an intimate "you" (du)
> > from a polite one (Sie)... let alone Hebrew, which distinguishes male
> > "you" (atah) from female "you" (at). --- Oh, but German *does* have a
> > word that means just what the newer use of "hopefully" covers:
> > hoeffentlich.
> >
>
>I'm afraid I have to agree with Steve on this one -- shifts in language
>which lead to loss of the possibility of nuanced expression are to be
>deplored; but that isn't the same as wanting to import all the
>distinctions of other languages simply to expand the language (FWIW, I
>would think that Greek, with its very much greater flexibility, is an
>even better counterexample than German).

Well put.

>_My_ bete noire, however, is not "hopefully", but the breakdown in the
>distinction between "shall" and "will".

Hmmm.  I believe I shall pick up that banner myself.