First, I apologise for not keeping up with everything. The list got busy REAL fast!! <grin> However, here's something else to ponder: The use of "I" or "Me", in sentences like: She gave John and I presents. or Between you and I... >From my understanding, both are incorrect (or were at one point...:) Any thoughts? Personaly, I feel this discussion is more interesting, informative, and fun than anything else. We can debate words in which meaning has been changed or garbled, like "impact" which in "legaliese" and the "business world" has become a substitute for words like "bearing", "influence", and "effect." I think this is what, at least in some ways, Steve is getting at. That instead of using words like influence or bearing, we use impact. It's use not only devalues the word "impact" itself, but it lessens our vocabulary as a whole, because we no longer use the "proper" word to describe what we mean. When someone says "What's the impact of this process", they don't mean what they're saying, or at least the meaning is muddled. OK, I'm done...:) Chris "Life is the nightmare that leaves its mark upon you in order to prove that it is, in fact, real." -Thomas Ligotti- 'The Sect of the Idiot'