>However, here's something else to ponder: >The use of "I" or "Me", in sentences like: >She gave John and I presents. >or >Between you and I... >From my understanding, both are incorrect (or were >at one point...:) >Any thoughts? I like this example because, for me, it demonstrates a flaw in my English. For whatever reason, I always use " and I", even though I believe both of your examples are flawed. BUT, it sounds right to me. So, if someone corrects me, I say , "You're right, it's a flaw in my use of the language, but for whatever reason, I haven't been able to fix it." I find the same thing with some plural words. I will never use "houses", but instead use "homes" for a plural of house. Wrong? Probably. Then there are others which I deem wrong, and dictionaries allow multiple right answers. Fish, comes to mind. One fish. Two fish. Not, two fishes, although when I have looked it up the dictionary allows it. Fundamentally the reason I believe these flaws developled was because I learned English from reading, far before I learned about grammar, and as a result I lack a solid foundation. At least I learned it reading Tolkein. :) -Jot