Dragaera

OT: Swords, and a tolerable acquaintance with their length

Penney, Sean seanp at ea.com
Fri Aug 16 13:50:17 PDT 2002

Joshua writes:

>I don't have any, though I have played SCA.  (and have studied
>historical and classsical fencing from a master at both).

>>I have and use two types of blades - a 32 inch Schlager blade (guess
>>that's a smallsword)

>Close enough, in dimensions.

The Schlagers we use are oval, with no taper whatsoever.  They tend to
measure 32 to 36 inches.

>>and a 43 inch Deltin (rapier - but we call them all rapiers
>>regardless of length),

>Sure...but the Del Tins tend to match (to some extent; they don't
>taper enough) the historical weapons much closer than the little short
>things [not to meanion the single-wide epees and foils used by [SCA]
>Easterners [1]].

Kingdom of the West here (An Tir - Vancouver BC, Oregon, N. California)) -
we also use these new double-wides (not epees - they are about 1 1/2 times
the width of a Deltin at the forte and have much less taper - I dunno why
they call them double-wides) and are starting to use some other
experimentals in an effort to get closer to the historical blades.  They
tend to be a bit stiff though.  We do not allow any modern fencing weapons.

I'm not so much an aficionado of historical accuracy - more so the
application of the blade, if you know what I mean...  I use whatever works
for me, and I do well in the tournaments.  Of course, I move like the wind
= )

>In any case, SCA fencing is a lot of fun...but it's not really very
>historical, and doesn't have the reality of "kill or be killed" in the
>way that techniques developed when weapons were used for real, and

Definitely true - the number of double kills I see is point in fact.

>only the masters whose techniques worked survived to teach them did.
>Thus, invented techniques are rather suspect and I have significant
>doubt that fencing, in the East[2] or Dragaera, is closer to any invented
>artificial style than it is to any of the ones that actually existed
>in history.

Well I guess in this we are in agreement.


Sean Penney
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