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funny the things you catch

David Dyer-Bennet dd-b at dd-b.net
Wed Sep 25 12:24:35 PDT 2002

"chris cunningham" <chrislee at neo.rr.com> writes:

> indeed. first thing i did was check ms. bull's and mr. shetterly's photos,
> only to find out that i couldn't determine ms. bull's height, or mr.
> shetterly's eye colour.  then i recalled seeing a photo of you (ms.
> dyer-bennet) on your site, so there i went, only to find out that all of the
> photos are in black and white. argh.

Heh.  Says the photographer.  :-)

But you might try my snapshot album, say around
http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/gallery.cgi/2002/08100-Minn-StF%20Picnic 

> so, here are my current ruminations and wild-assed guesses:
> 
> "she who is small finds the secrets of the present in the past..."
> i'm thinking this refers to one who knows her history, includes lots of
> history in her writing, or perhaps uses allegory to mask observations on the
> present in a historical or mythical setting...aha! thought that kara dalkey
> had set some novels in japan, so i just now searched for a site on her to
> verify this, and found a nice bio (
> http://www.lunacat.net/authors/author-dalkey.htm ) which not only confirms
> the japanese-historical-fantasy thang, but also mentions that she is
> vertically challenged.  yes!

Sounds good.  I can confirm that Kara is quite short.

> "she who is tall says that the secret is in the song..."
> emma bull.  ms. dalkey's bio also mentioned that she had been a
> bassist/singer, and i was afraid that i had misattributed ms. bull as this
> wizard.  but as ms. dalkey is small, and ms. bull seems tall, and sings/sang
> as a flash girl, i'm going with ms. bull on this one.  also, this part of
> the description just seems to fit: "...the secret is plain to all who
> listen, but that it is hidden again when the song is past," as i know that
> i've loved everything i've read by her, but have naveer been able to explain
> to others what i like about her work, as opposed to, say, mr. brust, whom i
> can usually describe somewhat effectively to friends:  zelazny-esque, jazzy,
> etc.  think i'll start quoting him and say that he writes "in 6/8 time."  i
> love that.  and just as i typed that, rush's "body electric" comes on, which
> song is only in my mp3 mix because of its mutated 6/8 beat.

And Kara and Emma and Steven were *all* in a band called Albany Free
Traders, back before Cats Laughing.  Nate too, now that I think of
it.  

I'd have to agree that Emma is the only woman in that list that can be
described as tall, though. 

> "she whose hair is red wraps the secret ever tighter in skeins of words...so
> that it is hidden to those who look, yet revealed to those who take joy in
> the unfolding patterns and sounds of words."
> reminds me of this description of paarfi's style, from _500 years after_:
> "your reader is the one who doesn't rush on to see what happens next, but
> relishes the way the sentences are formed."
> ok, this is a bit of a stretch, as i've only got one story by this writer on
> hand, from the first liavek book, but to me it is that sort of a story,
> where skimming it to reacquaint myself with it was informative, but made me
> want to read it slowly, which i did, at work, last night, during my
> lunchbreak:  "the green cat."
> pamela dean dyer-bennet is my guess here.

> "he whose eyes are green...no sooner finds the secret than he buries it
> anew."
> will shetterly.  i have a love/hate relationship with his fiction.  have to
> read him again before i can say more than this.  but i do think this is he.
> and i feel fairly confident that i know who his analogue is in _the sun, the
> moon, and the stars_.

You know, I don't *remember* what color Will's eyes are, and the
pictures are all B&W.

> "he whose hair is dark laughs at secrets, for his pleasure is in the search,
> not the discovery--and the paths he follows in this search stem from
> whim..."
> skzb
> 
> the gentle one:  "...when each is placed in its own position, the outline of
> the secret will be laid bare..."
> no idea.  refers to the way in which she assembles her fiction, i suppose?
> by process of elimination this should be patricia wrede, and that's my
> guess, but i have zero confidence in this guess, even after a quick reread
> of her story, "ancient curses."
> 
> "the master of rhyme still searches for the way of the wizards..."
> nate bucklin?  having not written, or at least, not having been published,
> iirc, he could be seen as still searching for the way.  and i seem to recall
> that he's a musician/filkster, aka a master of rhyme.

Nate's a great songwriter.  I believe he did have a couple of short
stories published some time ago. 

I must admit that the descriptions don't always click in instantly for
me, either -- and I've known the other 6 of them longer than Steven
has.  People don't always see/notice the same things. 
-- 
David Dyer-Bennet, dd-b at dd-b.net  /  http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/
 John Dyer-Bennet 1915-2002 Memorial Site http://john.dyer-bennet.net
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