Dragaera

Titles, and the Warlord

Gaertk at aol.com Gaertk at aol.com
Sun Sep 29 15:05:44 PDT 2002

In a message dated Sun, 29 Sep 2002 2:08:27 PM Eastern 
Standard Time, David Silberstein <davids at kithrup.com> writes:

> Another thought:  You know, what if Sethra the Younger's 
> plan for conquering the East meant the lands *other* than 
> Fenario?  I am uncertain of the status of the treaty, but 
> relations do seem fairly peaceful between Fenario & Faerie 
> in BP, and even in Vlad's time as well. 

That never occurred to me.  It seems that most Dragaerans 
have trouble thinking of Eastern kingdoms as separate 
entities, but its still possible.

[Khaavren == Warlord?]

> After re-reading ORCA, I can't believe this is possible. 
> Several times, both Vlad and Kiera refer to Khaavren, the 
> Warlord & the Empress in one sentence. 

Was someone claiming the Empress was Khaavren or the Warlord?
:)

> In fact, at one point, Vlad (talking to Timmer) says "I'm 
> pretty sure the Warlord or the Empress or both were 
> involved in sending your group in, because if it was just 
> Khaavren, Shortisle would probably have had him killed."

Hrm, that does challenge my theory.  I could claim Vlad 
doesn't realise that Khaavren is the Warlord, but that's
stretching his ignorance a bit.

This is irrelevent to the point under discussion, but I don't
trust Vlad's reasoning re Shortisle:  from TPG and FHYA, we
can see how easy it is to kill Khaavren :)

More irrelevency: could someone remind me to ask the Author
(once he's back online) about the origins of Khaavren's name?
I just saw a *very* similar name in Duane's Door books.

> If it was just one time, it might have been a typo, or 
> reference to a dual role, but there's other examples as 
> well where it only makes sense if they're both referring to 
> 3 different people.

Did you happen to note page numbers?  I'd like a better feel
for the context.

> I think the only thing we can get from ORCA is that the 
> Warlord is male, since, while trying to work out who Loftis 
> works for, Kiera can only eliminate Indus based on the 
> masculine circumlocutions.

We can also eliminate Morollan, Aliera, and both Sethra's
>from comments in _Yendi_.  Doesn't leave much.


--KG