In a message dated Sun, 29 Sep 2002 2:08:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, David Silberstein <davids at kithrup.com> writes: > Another thought: You know, what if Sethra the Younger's > plan for conquering the East meant the lands *other* than > Fenario? I am uncertain of the status of the treaty, but > relations do seem fairly peaceful between Fenario & Faerie > in BP, and even in Vlad's time as well. That never occurred to me. It seems that most Dragaerans have trouble thinking of Eastern kingdoms as separate entities, but its still possible. [Khaavren == Warlord?] > After re-reading ORCA, I can't believe this is possible. > Several times, both Vlad and Kiera refer to Khaavren, the > Warlord & the Empress in one sentence. Was someone claiming the Empress was Khaavren or the Warlord? :) > In fact, at one point, Vlad (talking to Timmer) says "I'm > pretty sure the Warlord or the Empress or both were > involved in sending your group in, because if it was just > Khaavren, Shortisle would probably have had him killed." Hrm, that does challenge my theory. I could claim Vlad doesn't realise that Khaavren is the Warlord, but that's stretching his ignorance a bit. This is irrelevent to the point under discussion, but I don't trust Vlad's reasoning re Shortisle: from TPG and FHYA, we can see how easy it is to kill Khaavren :) More irrelevency: could someone remind me to ask the Author (once he's back online) about the origins of Khaavren's name? I just saw a *very* similar name in Duane's Door books. > If it was just one time, it might have been a typo, or > reference to a dual role, but there's other examples as > well where it only makes sense if they're both referring to > 3 different people. Did you happen to note page numbers? I'd like a better feel for the context. > I think the only thing we can get from ORCA is that the > Warlord is male, since, while trying to work out who Loftis > works for, Kiera can only eliminate Indus based on the > masculine circumlocutions. We can also eliminate Morollan, Aliera, and both Sethra's >from comments in _Yendi_. Doesn't leave much. --KG