Skzb wrote: Like Phoenix Guards??? Alright- so when in your "Dumas mode" you are a little long winded. I can only say I overlook your weak points out of admiration (or just plain stupidity, which is more likely). And I thought Phoneix Guards moved along quite nicely, even when trying to be long winded and verbose, you tend to keep it interesting. Stop trying to be humble, we all know your head is swollen to 10 times that of a normal man! John D. Barbato,O.D. "I miss everything I'll never be.", Billy Corgin, smashing punkins