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Damiano's Lute

David Dyer-Bennet dd-b at dd-b.net
Wed Nov 27 15:04:03 PST 2002

Lydia Nickerson <lydy at demesne.com> writes:

> At 03:05 PM 11/27/02 -0600, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
> >Lydia Nickerson <lydy at demesne.com> writes:
> >
> > > At 11:35 AM 11/27/02 -0600, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
> > > >books at bofh.com writes:
> > > > > I also do not believe that DDB is not religious.  I will offer
> > > > > as inflamatory examples requests for discussions on the following
> > > > > subjects by him:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) List headers should have the list address set as reply-to
> > > > > 2) Vi is better than Emacs
> > > > > 3) Ksh is the best shell
> > > > > 4) Sendmail is clearly superior to qmail
> > > > > 5) HTML is necessary for effective email communications
> > > > > ...
> > > > > These are clearly religious issues.  :)
> > > >
> > > >Not in the sense we're discussing.  There are solid, real-world,
> > > >observable, measurable, reasons for preferences among the things on
> > > >those lists.
> > >
> > > Actually, what's going on is that you have certain immovable opinions
> > > based on those observable, measurable facts, not quite the same thing.
> >
> >You do understand that that's a top-level nasty accusation in my
> >world, right?  Notice that, even in responding to the poke here in the
> >list, I didn't actually claim that the evidence was overwhelming and
> >only an idiot could disagree.
> 
> 
> I'm, um, agnostic on the topic of the configuration of email lists,
> due to vast ignorance on the topic.  I have never seen anyone argue
> with you about the facts of what configurations do what, but I have
> certainly seen many people, some of them quite reasonable and
> experienced, argue with you about what configuration to use based on
> those facts, from which I draw the conclusion that one can draw more
> than one conclusion from the data, depending on what the list master
> prefers in terms of traffic to the list, embarrassment to the list
> members, ease of use for list members, and probably lots of other
> arguments I don't remember.  You're making choices based on some facts
> and some variables and some preferences, which looks to me an awful
> lot like an opinion.  I don't see why opinion should be a dirty word.
> We all have them, and the more they're based on real world
> observations and rational evaluations, the better off we all are.

It's the word "immovable" that I'm taking issue with.
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