Steven Brust <skzb at dreamcafe.com> wrote: To the extent that we understand nature, to that extent can we *control* nature--can we make a world in accordance with our wishes. This means understanding the laws of the motion of matter, as complex and varied and wonderful as they are. To introduce into our thoughts idea which do not reflect the world as it is, but, in particular require suspending or denying those very laws, hinders our understanding. The above is by no means a *proof* that god does not exist. I hope it is a step toward an explanation of why I reject him and the Pegasus he rode in on. *********************************************************************************** <laughs...then chuckles...then giggles> Oh Goddess, I find this hilarious, Steve. I do not find that explaination as "proof" of even why you reject Deity, especially Judeo-Christian Deity. In the very beginning of the Hebrew Scriptures, Genesis, to name the book, it is clearly stated that the world was given to man to change....so that man could exercise his creative processes that were a gift to him FROM God. According to the Bible ( and we won't go into the Quran here), God gave the world as a gift to man to do as he pleased. Man also was gifted with free will. God basically said " Go learn what I have given you...and have a blast with it." Seems to pretty much match what you have said....bar the belief in a Christian God. LOL ************************************************************* I am not to blame for being god. The position was forced upon me. ************************************************************** Now in the several months we have been together, why did you never tell me that the reason you don't believe IN God is because you ARE God? That would have been useful information. <laughs> Caliann *Owned and Operated by the Grand Poohbah Cheese of the Universe* "Offense theives. -- they take it when it isn't offered." --Tom Digby --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now