On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, Rachel L. Ruhlen wrote: > > >From: Philip Hart [mailto:philiph at SLAC.Stanford.EDU] > >>On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, lazarus wrote: >>> >>> And how the heck do the Orca navigate without stars? > >>That's easy - they know the time, and they know the distance (I bet) from >>the Orb (I assume the speed of sorcery is finite). If that's not enough >>(and isn't there a reference to compasses somewhere?) they probably have >>simple charms that indicate distance to reference points... > >>Otherwise they hug the coasts or know the currents out to the islands... > >That explains how _Orca_ navigate. What about the pirates from Elde >Island/Greenaere? They don't have the handy Orb link. > Well, I would guess that the Elde Islanders might be able to use celestial navigation, since the Enclouding probably does not reach that far West. Perhaps Greenaerans use charts and dead reckoning. And the position of the sun may be sufficiently visible through the Enclouding to give them latitude at least.