Alexx S Kay wondered aloud to the group: >> This scene, while fun to think about, wouldn't appear in the book, because, >> of course, the audience already knows what Vlad's got, and that's a false >> payoff. > >Not necessarily. After all, you don't need a "payoff" in the first chapter >so much. Well, I'll disagree. A book isn't so parsimonious as a movie or a comic book or a short story, but still, it isn't good storytelling to include anything that's not necessary or anything that the audience already knows. (Insert rant about page inflation in Giant Fantasy Series here.) Generally, you don't want the audience to wait for the story to start. Including the Vlad/Demon scene is, in a word, fannish. It's a scene that's only about giving the reader a chance to feel smug, as is common in fanfic. I think Brust wouldn't want to write it unless he could confound our expectations of it and make it part of the story of the book. If its only purpose is to create a truce between Vlad and the Jhereg, it can be disposed of in a few words of exposition: "Since the Jhereg had opted for discretion in dealing with the wielder of a Great Weapon...." [1] > And it *would* be a handy way to explain the current situation to >the unfortunate reader who has not yet delighted in reading _Issola_. Now, that's a possibility. However, the necessary exposition would probably work better folded into the scene where non-spoiler-"it" "wakes up", since that scene would naturally have a lot of exposition on the same topic. [1] Although their treatment of Morrolan in _Jhereg_ would seem to make this unlikely. -- "And I still don't get the `drawing straws' plot development. They drew straws, and then as far as I can tell, the heroes _all_, every single one of them, went. And by `went', I apparently mean, `walked across the room to talk to Darkseid.' "--Michael Blakeman Cleveland on Genesis mailto:Dr.Elmo at whiterose.org http://www.whiterose.org/dr.elmo/blog/