On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:55:50 -0700, you wrote: >On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 04:26:24PM -0500, Greg Morrow wrote: > >> Much of the Taltos books can be read through an AD&D lens--Vlad is clearly >> an assassin, a character class in 1st edition AD&D, for example. Dragaerans >> are elves that are Tolkienesque in height, but are otherwise 1st ed. AD&D >> elves, with 2,000 year lifespans (not immortal), and (in Jhereg > >I know of no evidence that Tokien's elves were as tall as Dragaerans. They >may be described as "tall", but I've always taken that as meaning they're well >fed and in good health, vs. the short men of Bree with short genes anyway. >Tolkien never made clear how you can tell a Man from an Elf just by looking at >them, and I think men like Tuor occasionally confused people anyway, which >wouldn't happen if there were a two foot height difference. I think Elves >just look like really good looking humans, plus occasionally glowing a bit >especially if they're Noldor. > >I'll note that it's rare for 7 or 8 foot women to be considered beautiful by 6 >foot men... Depends on which Elves of Tolkien's we're talking about. I believe the Vanyar could reach heights of 8 foot. -- lazarus "Folly it may seem," said Haldir. "Indeed, in nothing is the power of the Dark Lord more clearly shown than in the estrangement that divides all those who still oppose him." -- J.R.R. Tolkien