David Dyer-Bennet writes: We need a good system for representing the pronunciations in text form. For various reasons I don't think the IPA is a good choice -- mostly that the people looking up these pronunciations won't be familiar with it, and it presents a rather large learning curve. What do you mean by "IPA"? I like the pronunciation guide at m-w.com; it seems fairly simple and effective. rone -- "I don't even know you. What if you're a psycho?" "Would a psycho waste the last of his triple-sec?" -- RICHH