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Sethra's House, the Necromancer (sans spoilers)

Mon Nov 10 12:08:01 PST 2003

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matthew Klahn" <mklahn at mac.com>
To: "Drageara List" <dragaera at dragaera.info>
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: Sethra's House, the Necromancer (sans spoilers)


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> On Nov 9, 2003, at 22:22 , Jag wrote:
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> > On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 18:43, Caliann the Elf wrote:
> >
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> >> Those of us that have read Issola know that Lady Teldra's soul was
> >> "eaten" in such a way, but that Vlad managed to retrieve it and
> >> "embed" it , per se, with Spellbreaker.  And so was GodSlayer born.
> >>
> >> During that creation, Vlad mentioned gathering Lady Teldra as "grey
> >> threads".  It is entirely possible that Morganti weapons don't so
> >> much destroy the soul as they shred it....they just hold it within
> >> them.
> >
> > That's different.  That's a GW, more or less.  Just like in Jhereg
> > Aliera manages to not be killed by a Morganti weapon by having
> > Pathfinder hold onto her soul.  That trick was only possible because
> > Pathfinder is a GW, and likewise, the blade that 'ate' Lady Teldra was
> > a
> > GW, or at least a part of it.  And a part of a GW that was eating
> > another part of the same GW, therefore the same rules don't apply.
> >
> >
> > Jag
> >
>
> Well, I have to say that I disagree with this. The Morganti dagger that
> eventually becomes Godslayer wasn't really part of a GW until combined
> with Spellbreaker, and Teldra was struck down before that combination.
> So, at the point that the dagger pierced Teldra's skin (and she would
> have been "eaten"), it was just a plain-ol', run-of-the-mill,
> copper-penny-a-dozen, somewhat strongish (IIRC) Morganti dagger. Had
> Spellbreaker never touched the dagger, Teldra would have fared the same
> fate as, say, Napper. Wait, that's a whole 'nother discussion...
remember that no matter how powerful that morganti was, it was still chewing
on a jenoine power source via teldra's backstab....it was a bit overloaded
and probably a bit stunned from trying to take a bite out of what is
essentially a god... and even napper took a second or two to die.... that
scene played out relatively quickly imho, even though it seemed forever to
vlad... and who the hell knows what effect tossing spellbreaker around the
hilt had too. that could have easily started to play havoc with the dagger's
digestive tract.

andy