Remember--even Sauron had to inject the major part of his power into the Ring to make it work. The gods needed to do very much the same to fire up the Cycle... On Nov 19, 2003, at 2:51 PM, Chris Olson - SunPS wrote: > Jose wrote: >> Chris Olson - SunPS wrote: >> >>> Which came first, the Cycle or the Gods? What about the Empire? >>> >>> >> I suspect the gods came first, unless the Cycle included the other 14 >> tribes and could drop them from its face as they disappeared. But >> given >> that the Cycle is a representation of who is in charge of the Empire, >> and the Empire didn't exist until after some of the gods rebelled, I >> think it's safe to assume that they came first. > > Very well, I concede that the Cycle came after the Gods. > (Given the timeline, I suspected as much.) > > That doesn't explain why the Gods seem to be somewhat beholden > to the Cycle. Wouldn't they have been its creator? I suppose > even the creators might have to answer to it, but given their > nature (at least some of them) I would have suspected them of > just making alterations where needed. They did it with the > Orb, and the Cycle is in the Paths with them. > > Just curious, as usual--gonna get me killed one day....<grin> > > Chris > > "I feel if a person can't communicate, > the very least they can do is shut up." > ~ Tom Lehrer ~ > >