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Seen the other night....

Thu Feb 19 16:20:28 PST 2004

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bradford Holden" <holden at oddjob.uchicago.edu>
To: <dragaera at dragaera.info>
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: Seen the other night....


> Quoting dragaera-digest-help at dragaera.info
(dragaera-digest-help at dragaera.info):
>
> > From: Joshua Kronengold <mneme at io.com>
> > Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 08:46:37 -0600
> > To: dragaera at dragaera.info
> > Subject: Re: Seen the other night....
> >
> > Matthew Hunter writes:
> > >On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 04:42:21PM -0600, Bradford Holden
<holden at oddjob.uchicago.edu> wrote:
> > >> I saw a sign that said, "If you like Robert Joran, you might also
like
> > >> Steven Brust."
> > >And you take issue with this assertion why, exactly?
> >
> > My question as well.  Now, the other way, I don't see, but that's not
> > what was suggested.
>
> I am puzzled as to what Jordan and Brust have in common.  One writes long
> complicated epics about good versus evil.  The other writes books with
> sardonic protagonists undergoing journeys of self-discovery.  At least
> that is how I see it.
>
> If you like Robert Jordan you might like:
> George R. R. Martin
> Terry Goodkind (caveat emptor)
> Terry Brooks
> J. R. R. Tolkien (Cart...horse...)
>
> and maybe some equivalent epic space opera
>
> David Brin
> E. E. "Doc" Smith
>
> but Steven Brust?  I guess they both (sometimes) write books about
> guys with long pointy metal things.  I hate to think what would happen
> if the Jordan fan picked up the recently reissued "Cowboy Feng's Space
> Bar and Grille" expecting complicated epic fantasy.
>
> They seem really different to me.  Hence the clean up in the SF and
Fantasy
> aisle.
>
> --
> Bradford Holden
> "And goalies can only play net wearing an apron and holding a live
>  largemouth bass."
> - One of John Buccigross's suggestions for improving the NHL.
>
  I wouldn't put Martin in with Jordan.  I managed to slog through six or so
of the Wheel of Time.  While Martin's current work is definitely an "epic"
it is nowhere near a "good vs evil" set.  All of the characters have bad as
well as good in them.  The books are more like a sociopolitical drama.  The
fantastic elements at times almost fade away and you are left with character
development amidst a chaotic power struggle.  In addition, many of the
characters who start out important wind up dead.  In Jordan's works it
seemed that the main characters survived.  Of course, I did stop after the
sixth book or so.             warbi