"Rosemary Ighel" wrote: > Oh dear. Not... immaculate conception? As I'm remembering it, immaculate conception refers only to the fact that Mary was born without Original Sin, and not that Jesus was conceived without a mortal father. I'm guessing Aliera wasn't born sinless, but that may be a matter of perception. <grin> Chris (just clarifying:) "So farewell hope, and with hope, farewell fear, Farewell remorse! All good to me is lost; Evil, be thou my Good" - John Milton - 'Paradise Lost'