Steve Simmons writes:
>On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 08:40:11AM -0600, Joshua Kronengold wrote:
>> Philip Hart writes:
>> It's possible, but IIRC, the numbers we have indicate that a change in
>> emperor does not -necessarily- indicate a change in Cycle -- isn't the
>> largest amount of time a house can remain ascendant longer than the
>> usual Dragaeran lifetime?
>In fact, we have definitive proof otherwise with Tortaalik (or however
>the heck it was spelled) and Zerika. Both Phoenixes, no cycle change.
This is wrong, of course -- Tortallik was the last emperor of the
Great Cycle of the Phoenix, Cycle of the Phoneix, Reign of the
(decaying) Phoenix. [is there another way they distinguish the first
and last Phoenix in a cycle where there are both?]
Wheras Zereka is the first emperor of the Great Cycle of the Dragon,
Cycle of the Phoenix, Reign of the (rising) Phoenix.
Admitedly, Paarfi claims that 500YA takes place "In the Year of the
Hawk, In the Turn of the Orca, In the Phase of the Dragon, In the
Reign of the Phoenix, In the Cycle of the Phoenix, In the Great Cycle
of the Dragon, Or, the 532nd Year of the Reign of Tortaalik the
Third", which seems incorrect; the Great Cycle didn't turn until
Zereka returned with the Orb, after all. However, Paarfi is a partial
narrator.
>Other things suggest this as well. I believe there are multiple
>references to 'the <house> reign of the <xth> cycle' and to '<house>
>emperor <name> of the <xth> cycle.' Even allowing for Paarfiisms,
>that sort of usage wouldn't come up unless there was more than one
>emperor possible per house reign.
Unclear. Paarfi uses the long form and the short form as
alternatives, so one could use "532nd Year of the Reign of Tortaalik
the Third" or one could use the gc/c/r/p/t/y form. Either could allow
for multiple emperors of a House.
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