On Mar 16, 2004, at 12:19 PM, Steve Simmons wrote: > On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 08:40:11AM -0600, Joshua Kronengold wrote: > >> Philip Hart writes: > >> It's possible, but IIRC, the numbers we have indicate that a change in >> emperor does not -necessarily- indicate a change in Cycle -- isn't the >> largest amount of time a house can remain ascendant longer than the >> usual Dragaeran lifetime? > > In fact, we have definitive proof otherwise with Tortaalik (or however > the heck it was spelled) and Zerika. Both Phoenixes, no cycle change. > > Other things suggest this as well. I believe there are multiple > references to 'the <house> reign of the <xth> cycle' and to '<house> > emperor <name> of the <xth> cycle.' Even allowing for Paarfiisms, > that sort of usage wouldn't come up unless there was more than one > emperor possible per house reign. > -- Actually, Tortaalik was the LAST emperor of the FIRST Great Cycle while Z4 was the FIRST emperor of the SECOND Great Cycle