Mark A Mandel writes: >And we really shouldn't take the Phoenix reigns that cover the change of >Great Cycle, including the Interregnum, as evidence for "normal" >Phoenix reigns, that is, Phoenix reigns within a single Great Cycle. Good point. My guess would be that at the end of a Great Cycle, there are two Phoenix reigns, one decadent and ending in ruin, one reborn and rising to glory, wheras at the end of a -normal- cycle, a single Phoenix reign will generally begin ascendant and rising to glory, but end decadent, at which point war starts and the house of the Dragon takes over. But while we have evidence for what a Great Cycle change looks like (with an incredibly small sample size), we have no evidence for what a normal Cycle changeover is like...except that Adron clearly -expected- a Dragon reign to follow the Phoenix, lending credence to my theory that the double phoenix thing only happens at the end of a Great Cycle. -- Joshua Kronengold (mneme at io.com) "I've been teaching |\ _,,,--,,_ ,) --^--him...to live, to breathe, to walk, to sample the /,`.-'`' -, ;-;;' /\\joy on each road, and the sorrow at each turning. |,4- ) )-,_ ) /\ /-\\\I'm sorry if I kept him out too late"--Vlad Taltos '---''(_/--' (_/-'