Dragaera

Goblets, Emperors per Reign

Mon Mar 22 21:59:11 PST 2004

--- Philip Hart <philiph at slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Sean Whalen wrote:
> 
> 
> [re Tortaalik.  Radical snippage]
> 
> > Allistar wants to get rid of him by forcing him to
> step down (in favor
> > of Noima or Allistar).
> 
> Textev?

   Well, there isn't a description exactly matching
this.  In _The Phoenix Guards_ there's no scene where
all the plots are exactly described and all the
actions explained.  In fact, I'm pretty sure that some
of the information given is the result of editing
mistakes or changes in the plot from one draft to
another.

   I think my interpretation is very probable only if
there can be multiple Emperors per reign.  If not,
then Allistar just wanted to become Noima's lover and
use her influence for his own ends.  However, this
leaves him vulnerable to being exposed (and his
attentions weren't exactly secret) and risking
execution or banishment.  In any other story it would
be almost taken for granted that he wanted to marry
the Queen, remove the King and take over.  Only
because of the question of one to one match-up between
Emperors and reigns would this not be something
Illista and Allistar would try for.

   I've argued before that there can be more than one
Emperor per reign (and that there is only one Phoenix
Reign per cycle, almost always taken by a decadent
Phoenix).  It makes sense Tortaalik's sister tried to
kill him with poison to become Empress (and did it
ninety years into his reign), not that he would be
comatose.  It makes sense that Tortaalik's reign began
the Second Great Cycle.  If these things couldn't be
true, then Kana and Illista are sadly unobservant
about how long Zerika must reign and are following an
impossible path.

> Note I'm not arguing that the interpretation you're
> presenting is entirely
> inconsistent with the Texts - but I don't see what
> problems it solves for
> which simpler answers are available.  

   I can understand that.  It just seems to me that
taken together the solutions I believe in and have
described for the past week or so are more consistent
than anything else.  Each one may seem somewhat
unsupported by itself, but each comes together with
the others into something believable.


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