--- Philip Hart <philiph at slac.stanford.edu> wrote: > > > On Tue, 23 Mar 2004, Sean Whalen wrote: > > > > > Huh? Nothing was discovered. Tortaalik was > suspicious when he saw > > Allistar and Noima together (because of Garland's > manipulations to > > remove others with influence) but had no proof. > > If T wasn't an idiot this would have been discovery. > Plus whatever > Wellborn had going on (perhaps a dalliance himself) > that led him to > placify [coinage] T on this matter. Discover what? Noima hadn't done a single thing to make Allistar think his gifts or charms had any effect on her. The complete failure of their plans is why Illista decided to make use of Khaavren to give Noima something they knew she wanted (Kathana's safety). At this point Allistar is just continuing to try to stay near her at every opportunity waiting for a chance to get noticed. If Paarfi is concealing or changing information to make it seem Noima's actual affairs never took place, why does he have the conversation with Wellborn included? He could just leave it out since talks between Emperor and Discrete seem unlikely to be spread around. > > Jurabin got his power from being Prime Minister. > I don't think any of > > these people actually had affairs with Noima or > tried to do so to gain > > personal power. > Jurabin held the reins of power because T chose not > to. I know Tortaalik could have exerted more influence if he had chosen. I'm saying that Jurabin had power because of his position, not just from being some random noble in love with Noima. > Note from pg 36 of _FHYA_ (and somewhere in _TPG_) > that Noima exerts a > great deal of influence at court - Pel and Khaavren > say she controlled it. Illista and Allistar begin their plan before Tortaalik even ends his celebration. How would they know how much power Noima would have or keep for any time? I think the risk of maintaining an affair is too great. Removing Tortaalik would be a logical next step and they had the perfect time at the beginning of his reign. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html